Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:48481) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WaBpr-0001pG-07 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:27 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f56.google.com with SMTP id j7sf2167274qaq.1 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7DtF8n7KvvZb7Vr9kf9aCPAHsbRs+m3S6OPqRZAnKd4=; b=jt87mzQJVz6rB2SWvOnwI4aTI0EdrodBg/o6dgqJIexoDIX2dcavtB5t1/aKbATfdz rbdqfyR0ulO/q9yqFECnQ3A2kRgmkjPr8aFtlowe6dxnjOcvoi3C9mylYrBBow2FLia1 sPtWpTyCjyJz5UAS30tm1xfiO/39sX1lmt7wpA5bCaiOtpsSQhqgo3Rv9u0YRwYDUl/d IFXlMgf1J06YynQAx5M0GL1Uq72N9nlEUGD9wKodUqPSpu2PiE+8WqTa0LUf4LWBOuFh YMoHm6WhEUG0Ao7ctakNHLi/8BH/fmEZMzm8mMIqzq2EyM3JT43nxmV1IPpmh7JK9YTC RHtA== X-Received: by 10.50.178.196 with SMTP id da4mr701809igc.17.1397600884556; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:04 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.40.41 with SMTP id u9ls388222igk.22.gmail; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.219.69 with SMTP id pm5mr2062733pac.8.1397600884029; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x231.google.com (mail-ve0-x231.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qa17si5118454vdb.1.2014.04.15.15.28.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231; Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id sa20so9595755veb.8 for ; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.90.37 with SMTP id bt5mr107039vdb.7.1397600883898; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.170.73 with HTTP; Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:28:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <14122373.tkubhtF59R@caracal> References: <14122373.tkubhtF59R@caracal> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:28:03 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] fatri From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11369b0638fdc104f71c501c X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11369b0638fdc104f71c501c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > Which is correct?: > ca lo panomoi be lo ca masti loi citlanme cu fatri loi lanzu pa citlanme > or > ca lo panomoi be lo ca masti loi citlanme cu fatri pa lanzu pa citlanme > ? What I want to say is that lambs are distributed among families so that > each > family gets one lamb. > The second version is definitely not what you want, since it says that the lambs were distributed among one family, so presumably all the other families got nothing. The x3 of fatri is tricky, since it's logically a place for the (single) size of the portions, not for the (many) portions themselves, so I would say "lo citlamne cu fatri lo lanzu lo pa citlamne" "the lambs are distributed among the families in portions of one lamb". With "pa citlamne" it says that there is one and only one lamb x such that the lambs were distributed among the families with x as the portion, which is at least weird if not false. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11369b0638fdc104f71c501c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:16 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
Which is correct?:
ca lo panomoi be lo ca masti loi citlanme cu fatri loi lanzu pa citlanme or
ca lo panomoi be lo ca masti loi citlanme cu fatri pa lanzu pa citlanme
? What I want to say is that lambs are distributed among families so that e= ach
family gets one lamb.

The second versio= n is definitely not what you want, since it says that the lambs were distri= buted among one family, so presumably all the other families got nothing.

The x3 of fatri is tricky, since it's logically a p= lace for the (single) size of the portions, not for the (many) portions the= mselves, so I would say "lo citlamne cu fatri lo lanzu lo pa citlamne&= quot; "the lambs are distributed among the families in portions of one= lamb". With "pa citlamne" it says that there is one and onl= y one lamb x such that the lambs were distributed among the families with x= as the portion, which is at least weird if not false.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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