Received: from mail-qc0-f184.google.com ([209.85.216.184]:43771) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WaTgI-0002Ob-H3 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:42 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f184.google.com with SMTP id i8sf2529557qcq.21 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=bD838pxUUwoxbyE7TtebS4ba0CAMjs0wy17O8PN3W7w=; b=usBoW6G+3Kukdw8sY+ovKdcUc3YsZ7oLyfg3Shaiyc7VHyxXB0ZZ2mZ39AdFfwlLo+ 92MQW5xVmgcL9dKYBIDQaYGeOkiNXBtACpCdP+u3vEx+PP/+nCT6MLHptBddipHBFf6J 3Bl615Eq9IJpcpNLKoGnY6RWPOmch/D9c+kzF/9sL9BQ0j048EAwmhZG3F4aqIF5l5R/ d5RfaWxcLk4BPkRZAvGGzOe1FK6f8ISO+vB0Ne1x7kD+6XvKRGK1xcNHfqT/bMxuI6qr SxKnmMd2UNBXJisW5PlmDC24vpt/XfFbXSRnuR8eDrml8pXzlij0Z9Fjy3qLs0jjfS9y YiHw== X-Received: by 10.182.241.70 with SMTP id wg6mr100782obc.19.1397669484075; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.29.227 with SMTP id n3ls254643obh.57.gmail; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.158.4 with SMTP id wq4mr4680107obb.18.1397669483682; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x22f.google.com (mail-qg0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h5si454573qce.1.2014.04.16.10.31.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f; Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id i50so4021361qgf.6 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.47.206 with SMTP id m72mr921516qga.21.1397669483572; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.39.200 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2368f1c8-1a70-4dfc-b657-a17ec590ba02@googlegroups.com> References: <2368f1c8-1a70-4dfc-b657-a17ec590ba02@googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 11:31:23 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Imperative mi'o? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c16a7c14f99704f72c4938 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c16a7c14f99704f72c4938 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You can define who you are addressing with {doi}, so I imagine {doi mi'o ko klama} would mean what you want. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:37 AM, wrote: > Say you were at a dinner with some Lojbanic friends. You and your > significant other must leave early for whatever reason. You want to look > at him/her and say "mi'o klama" so that all listening know that you mean > just yourself and your partner. But at the same time, you want it to come > across as an imperative "ko klama". > > How would you handle this? mi'oko? Can you make personal sumka'i other > than "do" imperative? (eg: do'oko, ma'ako etc?) > > Or would you just decide that it's foolish to take the imperative with > your significant other and instead say ".e'o mi'o klama"? > > .i'o ki'e rodo > > mu'o mi'e neit > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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You can define who you are addressing with {doi}, so I ima= gine {doi mi'o ko klama} would mean what you want.


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at= 10:37 AM, <kosmikconundrum@gmail.com> wrote:
Say you were at a dinn= er with some Lojbanic friends.=A0 You and your significant other must leave= early for whatever reason.=A0 You want to look at him/her and say "mi= 'o klama" so that all listening know that you mean just yourself a= nd your partner.=A0 But at the same time, you want it to come across as an = imperative "ko klama".
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How would you handle this?=A0 mi'oko?=A0 Can you make personal sum= ka'i other than "do" imperative?=A0 (eg: do'oko, ma'a= ko etc?)
=A0
Or would you just decide that=A0it's foolish to take the imperativ= e with your significant other and instead say ".e'o mi'o klama= "?
=A0
.i'o ki'e rodo
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mu'o mi'e neit

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mu'o = mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi= .luk. mi patfu do zo'o
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