Received: from mail-qc0-f186.google.com ([209.85.216.186]:52167) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WaTs1-0002Rg-NS for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:43:49 -0700 Received: by mail-qc0-f186.google.com with SMTP id i17sf2542895qcy.13 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1MbaD7AcMUkZmJ0ACnIgLnY/49faLDoHYyxHv/bMTng=; b=LWZ6axjoM5RS2dsvgIlJwJDyMQQgrDaS8DtMEoutafcQoLGPsH9yGRs+wAg77kqt/A bf9pJwWaEZMzJho6pu4cucosbBr6A5uPf8ri6E095xjLZd9RhkAL48acsDpLznJi4E2l 98WFZ4mUZKyfW41vMvdyhbtXRPeUb7/4cuKCjCNSYjYFG56Ui30348dEUOmZlcIbviP4 HSK7B0OylJ4BL0gOM5fLh9FnpA7zpWjL1bulanj8x+TsCSsnh9SEC4HfoZ2UjylDPjGp fVzF9kk7ue62yboxGWoa2c+xNClrH5rGg10aB6IgPrCxDks9x2XMKlh8wHTkeGeNZ6KN VzVQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject :mime-version:x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1MbaD7AcMUkZmJ0ACnIgLnY/49faLDoHYyxHv/bMTng=; b=ncjfyTvgbnLXVvlTuoVBdHEuP5WlLpI0b7FqZQpb6HPnoz1T0kDevXzmnFJ9M3/L1d fNGH5vb9fTzAT1XYrcGMESvzxY9jtTdL3cf2Gfk3RUWvmwNMCIZ+94sd0ReM3d+/RVT7 r58/3YH7vLbiQOj4mJ62XaZlyrr6zOwfm4BNTGkPY9d9IUXRaTtnKrSiuqYEwM2hIS+5 r807A4+kLYHhqdFGm0jpemzthBmF3d1vjuL+BJWFC0764zI+u572goeR0xw76CMIRpKq RaRzp2SiRLkTrhZtm5oXY6i8toFM1MBnKKmFsRSxBYopRYxs4SMtYylZJep3PdpPn9O3 ypvw== X-Received: by 10.140.92.227 with SMTP id b90mr49053qge.25.1397670211144; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.48.198 with SMTP id o64ls753735qga.66.gmail; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:43:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.109.98 with SMTP id k89mr218952qgf.11.1397670210800; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 10:43:30 -0700 (PDT) From: la durka To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: kosmikconundrum@gmail.com Message-Id: <5feacad6-57d8-45e3-b19e-cec6b1cc28f5@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <2368f1c8-1a70-4dfc-b657-a17ec590ba02@googlegroups.com> References: <2368f1c8-1a70-4dfc-b657-a17ec590ba02@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] Re: Imperative mi'o? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: durka42@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2649_30420977.1397670210125" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2649_30420977.1397670210125 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think that {mi .e ko klama} would mean something like "I am going, come= =20 with me." There is the experimental {ko'oi}, which postulates that {ko} =3D= =20 {do ko'oi}, so you could say {mi'o ko'oi} for a collective imperative. You= =20 could also just use some weaker UI such as {e'o}, {e'u}. mu'o mi'e durka El mi=C3=A9rcoles, 16 de abril de 2014 12:37:48 UTC-4, kosmikc...@gmail.com= =20 escribi=C3=B3: > > Say you were at a dinner with some Lojbanic friends. You and your=20 > significant other must leave early for whatever reason. You want to look= =20 > at him/her and say "mi'o klama" so that all listening know that you mean= =20 > just yourself and your partner. But at the same time, you want it to com= e=20 > across as an imperative "ko klama". > =20 > How would you handle this? mi'oko? Can you make personal sumka'i other= =20 > than "do" imperative? (eg: do'oko, ma'ako etc?) > =20 > Or would you just decide that it's foolish to take the imperative with=20 > your significant other and instead say ".e'o mi'o klama"? > =20 > .i'o ki'e rodo > =20 > mu'o mi'e neit > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_2649_30420977.1397670210125 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think that {mi .e ko klama} would mean something like "I= am going, come with me." There is the experimental {ko'oi}, which postulat= es that {ko} =3D {do ko'oi}, so you could say {mi'o ko'oi} for a collective= imperative. You could also just use some weaker UI such as {e'o}, {e'u}.
mu'o mi'e durka

El mi=C3=A9rcoles, 16 de abril de 2014 12:37:4= 8 UTC-4, kosmikc...@gmail.com escribi=C3=B3:
Say you were at a dinner with some Lojb= anic friends.  You and your significant other must leave early for wha= tever reason.  You want to look at him/her and say "mi'o klama" so tha= t all listening know that you mean just yourself and your partner.  Bu= t at the same time, you want it to come across as an imperative "ko klama".=
 
How would you handle this?  mi'oko?  Can you make personal s= umka'i other than "do" imperative?  (eg: do'oko, ma'ako etc?)
 
Or would you just decide that it's foolish to take the imperative= with your significant other and instead say ".e'o mi'o klama"?
 
.i'o ki'e rodo
 
mu'o mi'e neit

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