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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: http://www.reddit.com/r/conlangs/comments/22b72j/accessibility_and_language_learning/cgvx0m6 This is a quote from a nintadni:"Hi there! I have learning disabilities and have had an interest in learning Lojban. The biggest hurdle for me in trying to learn Lojban has been this lack of learning resources that work for those of us with disabilities. I hope maybe I can help a little bit! 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The biggest hurdle for me in trying to learn Lojban has been this lack of learning resources that work for those of us with disabilities. I hope maybe I can help a little bit! Most of the Lojban resources I've tried to use jump right into describing the mechanics of the language. Frankly, it's tedious and boring information overload for beginners, especially those of us who have memory or learning disabilities. Teaching by incorporating associations and combining the different senses to lessons is usually the best method. This could be simple things like: - Associating certain attitudinals with colors, like yellow to denote happiness or blue for sadness. - Video tutorials including spoken lessons, subtitles, and animation for people who can't focus or understand with just audio or written words alone. Animation could serve the - purpose of making understanding sentence order and grammar easier. - Creating catchy songs, rhymes, mnemonics, and more to make it easier to memorize things, like how music instructors teach EGBDF. - Pimsleur's method for teaching pronunciation and language acquisition is amazing as well. - Interactive language games, much like the Reading Blaster games. - Having social games to play where people learn by teaching. People can retain information they've learned best by teaching others. - Programs, books, comics, movies, music, games and sites that allow for total language immersion. People in the Lojban community are already doing this, which is really fun and great! However, there is still quite an unfortunate lack of material and media to allow for total immersion. Being made to be a culturally-neutral conlang, there is no nation that speaks only Lojban and no historical backlog of news and media in Lojban, so it's easy to run out of content. It's hard to not get bored if you've already read, watched, and heard everything that's available, especially if the created/translated project has been abandoned. It would be really neat for Lojban to come up with sign language and braille, or use existing braille or sign language alphabets and modify the lessons to be for learning Lojban. Unfortunately, I can't say for sure how difficult it would be and how well that would work for those who would use it. I would absolutely be interested if these and any other creative methods were implemented. Sorry for the length of this comment, but I hope I added some useful perspective and advice. And yikes, sorry for editing this so much! :)" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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This is a quote from a nint= adni:"Hi there! I have learning disabilities and have had an interest in le= arning Lojban. The biggest hurdle for me in trying to learn Lojban has been= this lack of learning resources that work for those of us with disabilitie= s. I hope maybe I can help a little bit!

Most of the Lojban resource= s I've tried to use jump right into describing the mechanics of the languag= e. Frankly, it's tedious and boring information overload for beginners, esp= ecially those of us who have memory or learning disabilities. Teaching by i= ncorporating associations and combining the different senses to lessons is = usually the best method. This could be simple things like:

  • Assoc= iating certain attitudinals with colors, like yellow to denote happiness or= blue for sadness.
  • Video tutorials including spoken le= ssons, subtitles, and animation for people who can't focus or understand wi= th just audio or written words alone. Animation could serve the
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  • purpose of making understanding sentence order and grammar easier.
    • Creating catchy songs, rhymes, mnemonics, and more to m= ake it easier to memorize things, like how music instructors teach EGBDF.
    • Pimsleur's method for teaching pronunciation and langua= ge acquisition is amazing as well.
    • Interactive languag= e games, much like the Reading Blaster games.
    • Having s= ocial games to play where people learn by teaching. People can retain infor= mation they've learned best by teaching others.
    • Progra= ms, books, comics, movies, music, games and sites that allow for total lang= uage immersion. People in the Lojban community are already doing this, whic= h is really fun and great! However, there is still quite an unfortunate lac= k of material and media to allow for total immersion. Being made to be a cu= lturally-neutral conlang, there is no nation that speaks only Lojban and no= historical backlog of news and media in Lojban, so it's easy to run out of= content. It's hard to not get bored if you've already read, watched, and h= eard everything that's available, especially if the created/translated proj= ect has been abandoned.

      It would be really neat for Lojban to come u= p with sign language and braille, or use existing braille or sign language = alphabets and modify the lessons to be for learning Lojban. Unfortunately, = I can't say for sure how difficult it would be and how well that would work= for those who would use it.

      I would absolutely be interested if the= se and any other creative methods were implemented. Sorry for the length of= this comment, but I hope I added some useful perspective and advice. And y= ikes, sorry for editing this so much! :)"

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