Received: from mail-qa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.216.61]:33251) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WckFC-0003jo-KQ for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:37:08 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id i13sf27574qae.6 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5JOCzlSUyvaf4RhnIhILi5JKxJkD4OWEgEbcYMqE5TQ=; b=N7UIKGYvWhlOUtd381vzyafu0/BT/OAWFZUkn+/fmcCClIHpZMHF2SLe8Uu7NNto0K gvuyAexb9nlfLfT5qKrlAKdXZtGvkb0WFaI3xCAQfBGzj6syWGJYHUkqbAxfJk11bLX7 CIxodF8h+4Lwj676RbiC8BFMkPnHd3R9/yiZIyMLqdXP5lYUU2z33W6QPhJDM4boUx5n sNDalPJfUAbw88yzK2aHg+V//7uKvHETItgja2Bz9ErCVcXwxE2bTiY1/0IUkTnTsAV9 Gmw3Ak1BpPCISc9Y3S0FeXGQ/Cg8OHCe91ftQZPDlw/hJCj+taFIDZ+3RCLQkgzmcoNs shHw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5JOCzlSUyvaf4RhnIhILi5JKxJkD4OWEgEbcYMqE5TQ=; b=aEBtf5CuTE9brUSGiIxUbAWVutU4B+LxJaNOSSvba+J4xEU0n6U48bIzJg8+9I+/6k kyEPcRvQNbr36xb6OEbmxSymERYt0AoK8z695DkAxaKxqP4fdRYxnqpU+falM56PEj0u Wfiqby1IoLf5Fbk6BhpHFqObGkgyq3pa84MeQ1XSt3rzVGJb/WqfVjWlYJsLeR2miFBk kF22awXYeKZVx5FJCGfTeEd+1VsqiYtz3Bb2M/g8o/bdsu5AuRYP46aMBAVGpf+zxY9B cxkHl4qasCpoffDo7xLRn41iGW0Ih2BkjS+dN1hctjkyqFbo01FoRDUdKZGnBXCXrAK5 Q+gQ== X-Received: by 10.50.143.1 with SMTP id sa1mr21903igb.12.1398209808349; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:36:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.62.180 with SMTP id z20ls2386185igr.43.canary; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:36:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.41.102 with SMTP id e6mr20923igl.7.1398209807836; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 16:36:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Riley Martinez-Lynch To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <3be414c1-0ffa-4f9f-ac44-9ec314061488@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140419024554.302387e6@aol.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] jbovlaste, vlatai, camxes and morphology MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: shunpiker@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2434_16002869.1398209806535" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_2434_16002869.1398209806535 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I created issues #42 , #43, and #44 to propose renaming the jbovlaste valsi type "cmavo cluster" to "cmavo compound", and to create two new types "bu letteral" and "zei lujvo". The purpose of these changes is to reconcile the way that the morphology of words is analyzed by vlatai/jbofi'e and camxes as described in issues #38and #41 , in anticipation of replacing vlatai with camxes per #26 . Please join the discussion either here or in the comments on github if you think that these issues should be handled in some other way. I'm uncertain about how to proceed regarding the cmene (#39) and fu'ivla (#40 ) which are invalid ("nonLojbanWord") under camxes, or which parse differently - Respell the words (according to rules and/or community guidance) so that camxes accepts them as cmene and fu'ivla - Don't respell the words, but either reclassify them or otherwise flag them as using obsolete morphology - Do nothing: Don't respell or reclassify the words - Delete the problematic words entirely I appreciate your guidance! -- Riley mi'e la mukti mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_2434_16002869.1398209806535 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I created issues #42#43, and #44 to propose renaming the jbovlaste valsi ty= pe "cmavo cluster" to "cmavo compound", and to create two new types "bu let= teral" and "zei lujvo".

The purpose of these chang= es is to reconcile the way that the morphology of words is analyzed by vlat= ai/jbofi'e and camxes as described in issues #38 and #41, in anticipation of replacing vlatai with ca= mxes per #26.=

Please join the discussion either here or in the = comments on github if you think that these issues should be handled in some= other way.

I'm uncertain about how to proceed reg= arding the cmene (#39) and fu'ivla (#40) which are invalid ("nonLojbanWord") under camxes, or which p= arse differently
  • Res= pell the words (according to rules and/or community guidance) so that camxe= s accepts them as cmene and fu'ivla
  • Don't respell the words, but either reclassify them or otherwi= se flag them as using obsolete morphology
  • Do nothing: Don't respell or reclassify the words <= /span>
  • Delete the problematic = words entirely
I appreciate your guidance!
=

-- Riley
mi'e la mukti mu'o

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