Received: from mail-qg0-f60.google.com ([209.85.192.60]:39044) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WjEQf-0006j4-2v for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:43 -0700 Received: by mail-qg0-f60.google.com with SMTP id q108sf413609qgd.5 for ; Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:in-reply-to:user-agent:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type:content-disposition; bh=Ihwk2j2HSwGEdgWKQCStPE1z4r6vjikbkdQ200fN95U=; b=B16w/ixSUc+cNVi/areyVyyo77pBd5RKYxwsBBzMdvczYIRTHjT/ZwHm2onqDtJQKL 1+6rHOXrLFE9L+Yy7vTYeeimcYgrIQL1z6zLf9oaDyaDW+aUnlhVZTBAJTMxlEtSP4eh rE53sgLaEDf9Z3tJFRyWN/3jDxYXodXU7vCiouLVfGHwtN7lTvwqXZGJ2n1HAIQJfRZV oxvyfuENsXyMe842IxPrNXxpRkYLVI7a/rIsJ4A0SVo478Sryqnb7HFcuFNIPsgkm72A p2LAB1IpVzjQTA4xwhJnb/9kWXOX+T65SI1H415d9XJ1FvOyWtdZjNmpourryyaD7/e0 1QRg== X-Received: by 10.182.241.70 with SMTP id wg6mr103852obc.19.1399755806884; Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.109.228 with SMTP id hv4ls257613obb.95.gmail; Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.60.37 with SMTP id e5mr9332380obr.30.1399755806321; Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stodi.digitalkingdom.org (mail.digitalkingdom.org. [173.13.139.236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vc6si1063460pab.2.2014.05.10.14.03.26 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=173.13.139.236; Received: from rlpowell by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WjEQX-0006iy-J3 for lojban@googlegroups.com; Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 14:03:25 -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: jbocifnu report: 2.5 years Message-ID: <20140510210325.GR30032@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@googlegroups.com References: <20140507074306.GZ30032@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> <33464dbb-5147-4216-98d7-fd117a546c3a@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <33464dbb-5147-4216-98d7-fd117a546c3a@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 06:51:07AM -0700, len.budney@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, May 7, 2014 3:43:06 AM UTC-4, Robin Powell wrote: > > > > > > ...They have almost entirely stopped emitting it, though, unless I > > insist... > > > Do you speak lojban to anyone but them? No. > I've known some bilingual families, and the successful ones either > both speak the foreign language at home, or else each parent > exclusively speaks one language at home--to each other as well as > the children. The ones I've known where the parent speaks the > foreign language only to the child, the child seems to follow the > pattern you describe, and stops emitting after a while. *nod* -- http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i dafsku lu na go'i li'u .e lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni li'u -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.