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Subject: Re: [lojban] "bu letteral" and "zei lujvo"
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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:58 AM, 'Wuzzy' via lojban <
lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Of course, the question how to say this in Lojban came up.
> Xorxes suggested =E2=80=9Cbu letteral=E2=80=9D to be lojbanized as =E2=80=
=9Czo bu zei lerfu=E2=80=9D.
> This looks strange and unintitive to me. I am not even sure if this is
> grammatical and if yes, under _which_ grammar? xD PEG? YACC? Something
> else?
>
After the Magic Words reform, which to my understanding coincided with the
writing of the PEG, {zo WORD} is a single word for purposes of word
counting. Word counting is relevant to {si}, {bu}, and {zei}, and I think
nothing else, provided we exclude experimental cmavo. This means {zo si si}
is the empty string, {zo bu zei lerfu} is a valid lujvo, and {zo bu bu} is
a valid lerfu.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, May 15, 2014 at 11:58 AM, &#39;Wuzzy&#39; via lojban <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com" target=3D"_blank">lojban@goo=
glegroups.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Of course, the question how to say this in L=
ojban came up.<br>
Xorxes suggested =E2=80=9Cbu letteral=E2=80=9D to be lojbanized as =E2=80=
=9Czo bu zei lerfu=E2=80=9D.<br>
This looks strange and unintitive to me. I am not even sure if this is<br>
grammatical and if yes, under _which_ grammar? xD PEG? YACC? Something<br>
else?<br></blockquote><div>After the Magic Words reform, which to my unders=
tanding coincided with the writing of the PEG, {zo WORD} is a single word f=
or purposes of word counting. Word counting is relevant to {si}, {bu}, and =
{zei}, and I think nothing else, provided we exclude experimental cmavo. Th=
is means {zo si si} is the empty string, {zo bu zei lerfu} is a valid lujvo=
, and {zo bu bu} is a valid lerfu.<br>
<br></div><div>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o<br></div>
</div></div></div>

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