Received: from mail-ee0-f57.google.com ([74.125.83.57]:58101) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WlIFA-0000Fk-NX for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:24 -0700 Received: by mail-ee0-f57.google.com with SMTP id e53sf243302eek.22 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=MEIr4sPCGpnhU4Ulw6zJRW/0mG/bsLidw4cNgaR+9CA=; b=OxLMQLsC2Y3vmSPJTdnygM67VxCEh8MJnadORWs0LRoD94PXua4g+yfvW7ZAGhQtU5 UkapjIWbLhgNokUlL/yY0zyxG9+JOOxpVwRouYy2bC+8dICwOK5RaFV9cUuVb59ewNVX 0GPN5CEe8S0eoTC51uvhyKIMxKRFzVficXDHEXgMlr/K+QHvxoZT2AsJ65t4xG5VSYZx i8pUtBI4KBEdJ5L2sYRM0Nhlzjbca/vtSFb923EcoNYZgkwdXIjR1Z3ahOZHUwuWcV0i 970sWXl2pGI9c+I29ZCR847ZYpmWerZlPRlwNyYG51m15/FJq4VEx6Or0O77ofcfNHvc WIOQ== X-Received: by 10.180.95.98 with SMTP id dj2mr207398wib.3.1400247125339; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.73.83 with SMTP id j19ls113259wiv.26.gmail; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.14.221.137 with SMTP id r9mr20256eep.7.1400247124617; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22e.google.com (mail-we0-x22e.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ng3si91610wic.0.2014.05.16.06.32.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e; Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id k48so2530872wev.5 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.149.240 with SMTP id ud16mr13958874wib.3.1400247124453; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.163 with HTTP; Fri, 16 May 2014 06:32:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53760BA6.60403@lojban.org> References: <53760BA6.60403@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 17:32:04 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] the future of Lojban's leadership From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c260e27370b904f9847006 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c260e27370b904f9847006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 What is really important is to get the stuff done. Sorry for repeating banalities over and over again. If this is just voting (and this is indeed only voting) then I say "nay". If something is done in future then I might say "yes" but in future. In both cases my opinion will change nothing. So now I'm saying {na'isai}. What are the problems? Writing a better refgram, a better tutorial, a better dictionary, a better chrestomathy. I don't see any serious tech problems. All of that can be done using existing tools. 2014-05-16 16:59 GMT+04:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG < lojbab@lojban.org>: > On 5/15/2014 2:09 AM, Alex Burka wrote: > >> My name is Dustin and you might know me as ldlework or mokau or cadgu'a. >> I'm >> writing to announce the current motion to nominate selpa'i as the >> current warden >> for the language in a provisionally official capacity contingent on the >> general >> attitudes professed by the community's response to the motion. selpa'i >> would be >> replacing Robin Lee Powell in this position. >> > > There is no motion, and no provision for a motion at this time. The LLG > annual meeting was 3 months ago. Furthermore, neither you nor selpa'i has > ever expressed any interest in being a formal/voting member of LLG, nor > participated in an LLG meeting as a nonvoting capacity. > > Neither Facebook nor IRC are relevant to the matter, since neither is an > official group. > > LLG is a legal entity and has to operate in a formal manner in accordance > with its bylaws. > > As to the specifics, I have absolutely no reason at this time to support > selpa'i in any formal role in managing the language. > > lojbab > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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What is really important is to get the stuff done. Sorry f= or repeating banalities over and over again.

If this is = just voting (and this is indeed only voting) then I say "nay".
If something is done in future then I might say "yes" but in= future.

In both cases my opinion will change noth= ing.
So now I'm saying {na'isai}.

What are the problems? Writing a better refgram, a better tutorial, a = better dictionary, a better chrestomathy.

I don= 9;t see any serious tech problems. All of that can be done using existing t= ools.



2014-05-16 16:59 GMT+04:00 Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder -= LLG <lojbab@lojban.org>:
On 5/15/2014 2:09 AM, Alex B= urka wrote:
My name is Dustin and you might know me as ldlework or mokau or cadgu'a= .
=C2=A0 I'm
writing to announce the current motion to nominate selpa'i as the
current warden
for the language in a provisionally official capacity contingent on the
general
attitudes professed by the community's response to the motion. selpa= 9;i
would be
replacing Robin Lee Powell in this position.

There is no motion, and no provision for a motion at this time. =C2=A0The L= LG annual meeting was 3 months ago. =C2=A0Furthermore, neither you nor selp= a'i has ever expressed any interest in being a formal/voting member of = LLG, nor participated in an LLG meeting as a nonvoting capacity.

Neither Facebook nor IRC are relevant to the matter, since neither is an of= ficial group.

LLG is a legal entity and has to operate in a formal manner in accordance w= ith its bylaws.

As to the specifics, I have absolutely no reason at this time to support se= lpa'i in any formal role in managing the language.

lojbab


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