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Subject: Re: [lojban] Place structures, linkargs and a bit of FA
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I don't understand the related point. Can you give an example?

El viernes, 16 de mayo de 2014 17:22:16 UTC-4, xorxes escribi=C3=B3:
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> On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Ian Johnson <blindb...@gmail.com<javascr=
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>> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=3DAdvanced_Place_Structure_Mangling
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>> In short: the former. Note that this is not Word of BPFK, merely Word of=
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>> Tsani (with agreement from several others, myself included).
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> That's the reasonable answer, backed up by the parsing structure.=20
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> A related point is that quantifiers in a be-argument shouldn't be=20
> exportable to the main prenex, because they belong to the definition of t=
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> new selbri created by "be". This can be used to give a quantifier that=20
> appears later in the sentence scope over one that appeared earlier, but=
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> inside a be-argument.=20
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> mu'o mi'e xorxes
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I don't understand the related point. Can you give an exam=
ple?<br><br>El viernes, 16 de mayo de 2014 17:22:16 UTC-4, xorxes escribi=
=C3=B3:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.=
8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><d=
iv><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Ian =
Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf=
-obfuscated-mailto=3D"b8pzzm_-uXQJ" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:=
';return true;" onclick=3D"this.href=3D'javascript:';return true;">blindb..=
.@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><a href=3D"http://mw.l=
ojban.org/index.php?title=3DAdvanced_Place_Structure_Mangling" target=3D"_b=
lank" onmousedown=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%=
2Fmw.lojban.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DAdvanced_Place_Structure_Mangling\46s=
a\75D\46sntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNES1rJZqPKMJNvfb6LLzFEY1MZWWA';return true;"=
 onclick=3D"this.href=3D'http://www.google.com/url?q\75http%3A%2F%2Fmw.lojb=
an.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DAdvanced_Place_Structure_Mangling\46sa\75D\46s=
ntz\0751\46usg\75AFQjCNES1rJZqPKMJNvfb6LLzFEY1MZWWA';return true;">http://m=
w.lojban.org/index.<wbr>php?title=3DAdvanced_Place_<wbr>Structure_Mangling<=
/a><br>
<br></div>In short: the former. Note that this is not Word of BPFK, merely =
Word of Tsani (with agreement from several others, myself included).<br>
<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's the reasonable answer, ba=
cked up by the parsing structure.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>A related =
point is that quantifiers in a be-argument shouldn't be exportable to the m=
ain prenex, because they belong to the definition of the new selbri created=
 by "be". This can be used to give a quantifier that appears later in the s=
entence scope over one that appeared earlier, but inside a be-argument.&nbs=
p;</div>
<div><br></div><div>mu'o mi'e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div>

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