Received: from mail-lb0-f191.google.com ([209.85.217.191]:47924) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wm2nx-0004qA-KM for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:27 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f191.google.com with SMTP id l4sf399024lbv.8 for ; Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=R0tCL9mbsASsImlj20m+IEJnGf5bQPPxVzhzPD0AC5s=; b=DeZq/GvR0HBuJeiwJQaQhjfyJyxilpjHfZqCZy7aYCOdhbO344mdLRTHUhlw2QABwN xb7rjMwqI+JFFRIgtrTBSsX2f/UIxW57I/NJxw3O/l5cRXRYbIgOCQ9aoSFFJ5P/FfP5 ggVgHjqGmImIwjYh9WuzNLdk8v+QRwGtTccNsqYbtJMSYmEM6ZCtbsNdIvTgQOG7m0Z9 aXbnp7m6zJZ0Jg1+UVhH/kWiNTzV1egOtjjgcn1APRchb9nn+++67J58UKEGsBo3+lgv VzqcKUFU39XKgDH+vXi/2gJhgPOMfGPLZYJ7SyW4NEUwRBo1eW2hk0iMjuSt9ut6vAmW yWQw== X-Received: by 10.152.28.101 with SMTP id a5mr344650lah.4.1400426105446; Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.28.229 with SMTP id e5ls225666lah.43.gmail; Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.54.169 with SMTP id k9mr2353535lbp.1.1400426104584; Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x232.google.com (mail-we0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gt1si237564wib.0.2014.05.18.08.15.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::232; Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u56so4540490wes.9 for ; Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.72.136 with SMTP id d8mr8026088wiv.36.1400426104506; Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([37.252.207.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mw4sm9874429wib.12.2014.05.18.08.15.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 18 May 2014 08:15:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5378CE5C.3040702@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 17:14:36 +0200 From: Ilmen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] cidja X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / coi ro do Some times ago the question of whether {cidja} implies solid food only or includes beverages as well has been raised on IRC. Let's look at {cidja}'s definition: * "x1 is food/feed/nutriment for x2; x1 is edible/gives nutrition to x2" According to this definition, it seems perfectly sensible to create a lujvo {likydja} (litki cidja) for drink/beverage, as those are also a source of nutrition (which seems to be the underlying concept of {cidja}). {ligdja} (sligu cidja) could be used for solid food specifically. gismu are intended to have broad meanings, and we don't have any brivla for "beverage". What's your opinion on that matter? Would you agree that a beverage is a {cidja}? Thank you in advance. mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.