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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:

> coi ro do
>
> Some times ago the question of whether {cidja} implies solid food only or
> includes beverages as well has been raised on IRC.
>
> Let's look at {cidja}'s definition:
>
> * "x1 is food/feed/nutriment for x2; x1 is edible/gives nutrition to x2"
>
> According to this definition, it seems perfectly sensible to create a
> lujvo {likydja} (litki cidja) for drink/beverage, as those are also a
> source of nutrition (which seems to be the underlying concept of {cidja}).
>


Things like soups or baby formula are clearly likydja, but I'm not sure how
nutritious things like vodka or sodas are.


> {ligdja} (sligu cidja) could be used for solid food specifically.
>
> gismu are intended to have broad meanings, and we don't have any brivla
> for "beverage".
>
> What's your opinion on that matter? Would you agree that a beverage is a
> {cidja}?
>

"selpinxe" is the word I've always seen used for "beverage". That of course
raises the question of whether something that nobody ever drinks can still
qualify as a selpinxe, and whether something someone drinks but is not
potable qualifies as a selpinxe. One way out of that is to say that
"selpinxe" is not necessarily identical with "se pinxe".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ilmen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">coi ro do<br>
<br>
Some times ago the question of whether {cidja} implies solid food only or i=
ncludes beverages as well has been raised on IRC.<br>
<br>
Let&#39;s look at {cidja}&#39;s definition:<br>
<br>
* &quot;x1 is food/feed/nutriment for x2; x1 is edible/gives nutrition to x=
2&quot;<br>
<br>
According to this definition, it seems perfectly sensible to create a lujvo=
 {likydja} (litki cidja) for drink/beverage, as those are also a source of =
nutrition (which seems to be the underlying concept of {cidja}).<br></block=
quote>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Things like soups or baby formula are cl=
early likydja, but I&#39;m not sure how nutritious things like vodka or sod=
as are.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
>

{ligdja} (sligu cidja) could be used for solid food specifically.<br>
<br>
gismu are intended to have broad meanings, and we don&#39;t have any brivla=
 for &quot;beverage&quot;.<br>
<br>
What&#39;s your opinion on that matter? Would you agree that a beverage is =
a {cidja}?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>&quot;selpinxe&quot; is the =
word I&#39;ve always seen used for &quot;beverage&quot;. That of course rai=
ses the question of whether something that nobody ever drinks can still qua=
lify as a selpinxe, and whether something someone drinks but is not potable=
 qualifies as a selpinxe. One way out of that is to say that &quot;selpinxe=
&quot; is not necessarily identical with &quot;se pinxe&quot;.</div>
<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes=C2=A0</div><div><br></div></di=
v></div></div>

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