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Well. aside from the "actually pursued " part -- which might be taken as me=
aning that the way decided upon was ill-chosen.


On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:51 AM, v4hn <me@v4hn.de> wrote:
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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:05:33PM +0400, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Otherwise I again agree with Lojbab that first we need the stuff done.
> I'm not sure the current BPFK Sections in the wiki are a good place for
> finishing the baseline. I'd prefer one single document, e.g. "CLL, servic=
e
> edition, alpha version, only for BPFK and with lots of mistypes" rather
> than a bunch of mostly not-connected pages in the wiki.

This "I would prefer it that way" attitude is a pretty good example
for the problem lojbab just explained:

On 2014-05-20 21:51 at GMT+04:00, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - =
LLG <lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:
> Of course there is will for things to move forward.=A0 That has been true=
 for
> years.=A0 What there isn't are workers willing to work as part of a team =
to move
> forward on the tasks that team leaders need them to do. Everyone wants to=
 do
> their own thing in their own way, and as a result the usefulness of any
> particular effort is accidental.

There are _always_ tons of ways to move forward.
What's important is that one is decided upon and actually pursued.
This was done years ago.


v4hn

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hich might be taken as meaning that the way decided upon was ill-chosen.<br=
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; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On =
Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:51 AM, v4hn &lt;me@v4hn.de&gt; wrote:<br> </font=
> </div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container">On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1=
0:05:33PM +0400, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Otherwise I a=
gain agree with Lojbab that first we need the stuff done.<br clear=3D"none"=
>&gt; I'm not
 sure the current BPFK Sections in the wiki are a good place for<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; finishing the baseline. I'd prefer one single document, e.g.=
 "CLL, service<br clear=3D"none">&gt; edition, alpha version, only for BPFK=
 and with lots of mistypes" rather<br clear=3D"none">&gt; than a bunch of m=
ostly not-connected pages in the wiki.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>This "I would prefer it that way" attitude is a pretty good example<br cle=
ar=3D"none">for the problem lojbab just explained:<br clear=3D"none"><br cl=
ear=3D"none">On 2014-05-20 21:51 at GMT+04:00, Bob LeChevalier, President a=
nd Founder - LLG &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:lojbab@lojban.org"=
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r=3D"none">&gt; Of course there is will for things to move forward.&nbsp; T=
hat has been true for<br clear=3D"none">&gt; years.&nbsp; What there isn't =
are workers willing to work as part of a team to move<br clear=3D"none">&gt=
; forward on the tasks
 that team leaders need them to do. Everyone wants to do<br clear=3D"none">=
&gt; their own thing in their own way, and as a result the usefulness of an=
y<br clear=3D"none">&gt; particular effort is accidental.<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">There are _always_ tons of ways to move forward.<br cle=
ar=3D"none">What's important is that one is decided upon and actually pursu=
ed.<br clear=3D"none">This was done years ago.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">v4hn<div class=3D"yqt2627389052" id=3D"yqtfd26=
738"><br clear=3D"none"></div><br><br></div>  </div> </div>  </div> </div><=
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