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[212.227.17.20]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k3si186057qcn.2.2014.05.22.14.48.15 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 22 May 2014 14:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.20; Received: from [192.168.2.108] ([93.220.122.177]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mb45P-1WTSlB1Es7-00Kjmn for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 23:48:14 +0200 Message-ID: <537E70A1.4080707@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 23:48:17 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Balningau: The Great Update References: In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:QtGS71q8Pk8Wf/PAZG5365Vk+A2Gf3A2E9FjIObMWYzCs+f7b2D XOqxGjA8vPfoK6R+dwhz8o3jED3+I1Ab6FSK99h7HFXcfqWMkQ9SieZMohBbpd2wEza86QN w62TWjJz2CIDk7PULyJ3owjJeeDt/vM0iAWP429Yjic4MRkUYUJPDNNtlj5haecsIIkYRyY pktw1upkmGHUitiBDEcOg== X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la'o me. Craig Daniel .me cusku di'e > Is it your intention to fork off of Lojban? No. > If not, why are you > making no apparent effort to make this any kind of official project? We actually did try. See this recent thread ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/lojban/_juGorRhWtI ). We tried to appoint some sort of new leadership in order to give activities like this gimste revision the proper drive and momentum and the ability to make actual decisions. (I would like to say that I'm very grateful for the huge amount of support I have received from so many jbopre, both old and new.) We certainly would like this project to be official, but the LLG clearly has other plans before even considering a project like this. Nevertheless, I and everyone else involved in this project believe that improving the gimste is something that we shouldn't postpone any longer than necessary (Nobody knows how long we would have to wait. Another 10 years?). Usage and definitions are drifting further and further apart, and it pains me that newcomers find the language in this state of uncertainty. There are obvious flaws in the gimste, and we want to fix them in order to make Lojban the best possible language we can. We don't want to wait anymore, and we hope that others share this sentiment and will participate in the revision either by actively getting involved or by voicing their approval of the idea and supporting our cause that way. > (I say this as somebody who loves the idea of a better-organized, more > internally consistent gimste and is likely to back any kind of > official proposal to sanely bring about such a thing.) Great to hear that! mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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