Received: from mail-qg0-f63.google.com ([209.85.192.63]:38641) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WnbIV-0007XX-Lc for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:20 -0700 Received: by mail-qg0-f63.google.com with SMTP id q108sf330193qgd.18 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0MNODbayn88prD73CDkJve8/SRPVN8FrK1yiB1uB36o=; b=O2xQULYCNZt6d72eyvW4L8BH4y5RBuCPfPpZcfcHVzLkVQDaool8SVJru7xNiUwhgb Im+l2KwfjGgGnjDVY8v6r8VTSbveNcvwN31jbBPVqICSTIL7ZSFHHCSMVm/SfMN4QwGL tcn/tnS2nP8qUS8sBbyKbjHqjA23GJ8dhyTCvEFjefhqVZnVXqrSWWwXimLSpi0KVl+8 Fran5xifZ0nyyH6EvYDBA1NNFKHToXJK/WB1EDOI0f6+jT4/sLp0MABR6qxLVzdE/HmX F0tWAMaEZA/slgzYIT+yzwCU/SaD8z5WkVDMcIwtbqM7NtH3Uta53ZVd1Dpk38E+2VHp J4+Q== X-Received: by 10.182.225.170 with SMTP id rl10mr3587obc.11.1400797025341; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.110.167 with SMTP id ib7ls465255obb.50.gmail; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.210.137 with SMTP id mu9mr382016obc.48.1400797024827; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-x22f.google.com (mail-oa0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id io7si534459igb.2.2014.05.22.15.17.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f; Received: by mail-oa0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id i7so4718869oag.20 for ; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.41.2 with SMTP id b2mr545982oel.57.1400797024701; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.118.167 with HTTP; Thu, 22 May 2014 15:17:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <537E70A1.4080707@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 18:17:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Balningau: The Great Update From: Craig Daniel To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: craigbdaniel@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of craigbdaniel@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c02::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=craigbdaniel@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Craig Daniel wrote: > Do you know how many years passed from when xorlo was proposed in a > usably-close-to-final form and when it was granted official status by > the body you are assuming can't act fast enough? > > The answer is about half of one. The BPFK took a vote pretty much > immediately in which we (I say we because I was on it at the time) > unanimously said this was a thing we wanted approved and made > official, so Robin moved to do so. Objections were made that the > then-current version of the BPFK procedures didn't actually allow for > that to happen with any piece before all pieces were done (which is > because they were written at a time when it was thought the whole > project would take a year or so tops, and we were at the time already > seeing that it was going to be a long slog), so And said, let's change > the procedures so we can implement it! And so I wrote up a proposal to > do precisely that (one that said, in more formal terms, "hey, the > entire BPFK and a healthy majority of the membership wants this; > clearly when *that* is the case it is a good idea") and to incorporate > into those changes the adoption of xorlo, and this proposal passed at > once. (To clarify: I should note that xorlo as a thing was about three or four years old, but the specific, detailed proposal of it that xorxes put forth was fresh.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.