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 Content preview:  Another revision of gimste done by me is complete. I based
    it on excellent simple definitions of gismu made by la .aionys. (.io) but
    changed them here and there. The most important difference is that I specified
    possible sumti types for each place. E.g. (event) - an event place. {nu}
   or any other place like nicte1 that has {nu} inside is possible for this place.
    (assertion) - du'u (property) - ka with ce'u referring to x1 of the current
    gismu (property of x2) - ka with ce'u referring to x2 of the current gismu
    One of the rare sumti types is e.g. (ordered set) that requires using {ce'o}.
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Another revision of gimste done by me is complete.

I based it on excellent simple definitions of gismu made by la .aionys.
(.io) but changed them here and there.
The most important difference is that I specified possible sumti types for
each place.
E.g.
(event) - an event place. {nu} or any other place like nicte1 that has {nu}
inside is possible for this place.
(assertion) - du'u
(property) - ka with ce'u referring to x1 of the current gismu
(property of x2) - ka with ce'u referring to x2 of the current gismu
One of the rare sumti types is e.g. (ordered set) that requires using
{ce'o}.

Places with just x1, x2... without a sumti type specified imply "object"
sumti type (e.g. mlatu1)

This revision primarily deals not with rearranging the place structure but
instead with ignoring final places if they are not necessary.

Thus it is 99% compatible with the official gimste.
It is a part of a project of making tutorials for Simple Lojban.
The gismu that changed their place structure are:
zabna, mabla, traji, satci, konju

A few gismu had weird places in non-final places. Unlike other proposals I
am not suggesting to change the place structure.
I just removed those gismu from the list and replaced them with new fu'ivla
created by me.

There are three of them: {anli} intead of {djine}, {lianzi} instead of
{linsi}, {kombitu} instead of {komcu}.

I also included some important cimjvo and fu'ivla into the list so that it
can reflect the basic ontology more precisely (although, ofc. no such
ontology would be perfect).

The current version can be seen here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ahngu1CNj7wddFltdkVpZFNLWlQ5dVN1VVpXSnphVVE&usp=drive_web#gid=7


Feedback is welcome.

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Another revision of gimste done by me is complete.</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>I based it on excellent simple definitions of gismu =
made by la .aionys. (.io) but changed them here and there.</div><div>The mo=
st important difference is that I specified possible sumti types for each p=
lace.</div>
<div>E.g.</div><div>(event) - an event place. {nu} or any other place like =
nicte1 that has {nu} inside is possible for this place.</div><div>(assertio=
n) - du&#39;u</div><div>(property) - ka with ce&#39;u referring to x1 of th=
e current gismu</div>
<div>(property of x2) - ka with ce&#39;u referring to x2=C2=A0of the curren=
t gismu<br>One of the rare sumti types is e.g. (ordered set) that requires =
using {ce&#39;o}.</div><div><br></div><div>Places with just x1, x2... witho=
ut a sumti type specified imply &quot;object&quot; sumti type (e.g. mlatu1)=
</div>
<div><br></div><div><div>This revision primarily deals not with rearranging=
 the place structure but instead with ignoring final places if they are not=
 necessary.</div><div><br></div><div>Thus it is 99% compatible with the off=
icial gimste.</div>
<div>It is a part of a project of making tutorials for Simple Lojban.</div>=
<div>The gismu that changed their place structure are:</div><div>zabna, mab=
la, traji, satci, konju</div></div><div><br></div><div>A few gismu had weir=
d places in non-final places. Unlike other proposals I am not suggesting to=
 change the place structure.</div>
<div>I just removed those gismu from the list and replaced them with new fu=
&#39;ivla created by me.</div><div><br></div><div>There are three of them: =
{anli} intead of {djine}, {lianzi} instead of {linsi}, {kombitu} instead of=
 {komcu}.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I also included some important cimjvo and fu&#39;ivla i=
nto the list so that it can reflect the basic ontology more precisely (alth=
ough, ofc. no such ontology would be perfect).</div><div><br></div><div>
The current version can be seen here:</div><a href=3D"https://docs.google.c=
om/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahngu1CNj7wddFltdkVpZFNLWlQ5dVN1VVpXSnphVVE&amp;u=
sp=3Ddrive_web#gid=3D7">https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=3D0Ahng=
u1CNj7wddFltdkVpZFNLWlQ5dVN1VVpXSnphVVE&amp;usp=3Ddrive_web#gid=3D7</a><br>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feedback is welcome.</div></div>

<p></p>

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