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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Balningau: The Great Update References: <53800942.9030407@lojban.org> <1400948010.93944.YahooMailNeo@web181103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <53D0F569-A434-4953-9A1A-3F8D2001A8BB@yahoo.com> <5380F63E.3070006@gmx.de> <5381C5B0.1000304@lojban.org> <538215D3.5050703@lojban.org> <53823241.5020708@lojban.org> <6JVU1o01656Cr6M01JVWiY> In-Reply-To: <6JVU1o01656Cr6M01JVWiY> X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 5/25/2014 2:29 PM, Dustin Lacewell wrote: > Did you just invoke your own death to bolster your position? No. I invoked my own death to indicate my long term irrelevancy. Unlike you, I have learned some humility. > Bob. We want to fix some things in the language within a realistic > timeframe as to benefit from them without spending years doing uselessly > tautological work to reflect in materials that we will shortly after > rewrite, reflect a very out of date version of the language. How is it > possible that we're talking about all these odd topics that don't seem > to connect with solving that problem? We don't agree on "the problem". > Its like, the problem is simple, the solution is simple, and lots of > people agree. Your evidence as to "lots" is lacking. > If you stop this odd debate of trying to make us out to be > some sort of insignificant traitors Stop with insignificant, and that will be fine. > That improving the prescription more immediately to reflect modern > usage, so that we can better go on teaching and advocating the language, > is even contentious is boring. The debate is tired and apparently the > arguments have become very weak. And odd. You made some odd arguments > Bob. That don't really address the problem at all. I'm not trying to address YOUR problem. And if my arguments are ill-thought out, then perhaps my health problems, and family matters that are much more important to me than your argument take precedence. > You need to start > speaking to realistic and practical short term solutions for those out > there teaching and using the language. Says who? My job is defined in the LLG Bylaws, as interpreted by the Members and Directors. If THEY decide to change course, then I will either change course or not continue as President. > Because of course we > don't exist, and probably don't even speak "Lojban" as it could be > officially called anyway right? I have no idea what you speak, or whether it would be mutually intelligible with something I speak. > Why are we not the first group to come along and suggest such > editorializing of the language? Its because the language does not exist > as just some mental object. Take that up with a philosopher of language. I suspect that s/he would disagree. But I'm not much of a philosopher. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.