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[107.14.166.225]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id ci7si1350533qcb.1.2014.05.25.18.19.46 for ; Sun, 25 May 2014 18:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=107.14.166.225; Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:44813] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id D1/58-04269-2B692835; Mon, 26 May 2014 01:19:46 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16BE45E1 for ; Sun, 25 May 2014 21:19:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 21:19:42 -0400 Message-ID: <21234779.k3F9ohOmzO@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.13 (Linux/3.13.0-24-generic; KDE/4.13.0; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.142:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: phma@bezitopo.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sunday, May 25, 2014 20:09:04 Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > No, I've never been able to figure out how to use the species places. CLL > suggests Linnaean names, but since I don't know the Linnaean name of > practically any animal and much less plant, I don't really have a use for > those places. You can use any name, from the Linnaean name quoted with "la'o" to a selbri= =20 with "la" in front. For example: lo cionmau be la barda cu cionmau la'o .ly. Ailuropoda .ly .i lo cionmau be= la=20 cmalu cu cionmau la'o .ly. Ailurus .ly. (I sometimes jokingly call the latt= er=20 "cionme'a".) Using the species place makes it clear you're not talking abou= t a=20 panda bear cub, which could be called "cmalu cionmau". ti gerku la dotco lange'u. This sounds redundant, but "lo dotco lange'u" co= uld=20 refer to a Caucasian ovcharka who was born and lived all her life in German= y. "ti guzme la .luf." is equivalent to "ti panjyzme". You can also use "lo'e se " in the species=20 place. E.g. "ti spati lo'e se guzme", "ti spati la'o ly. Cucurbitaceae .ly.= ",=20 and "ti guzme" are equivalent. Similarly Polygonaceae =3D lo'e se xruba. ("= lo'e=20 se latna" and "lo'e se cionmau" aren't taxa, whatever they are.) What are some plants or animals that you talk about or would like to? Pierre --=20 When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates. J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.