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Subject: Re: [lojban] Learning basic Lojban vocabulary: one year after
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Well, I don't know how to measure real knowledge of words. cmavo
definitions are cryptic and knowing the translation doesnt always help
using it immediately in speech.

Also I don't know why everyone should know *all* words of the language when
this never happens for speakers of natlangs.


2014-05-27 19:28 GMT+04:00 'Wuzzy' via lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com>:

> Hi!
> It was roughly 1 year ago when I have discovered Lojban and started to
> learn it.
>
> Some people may remember that I have started a poll a while ago about
> learning the words of Lojban.
>
> Since then, my percentage improved.
>
> So here are some statistics for you to munch:
>
> =3D cmavo**** =3D
> BAI and BAI*: 370/382 cards (97%)
> COI and COI*: 54/54 (100%)
> KOhA: 45/45 (100%)
> PA: 89/91 (97%)
> UI1 and UI*1: 181/190 (95%)
> UI and UI* without UI1 and UI*1: 213/218 (97%)
> tense cmavo: 174/178 (98%)
> mekso cmavo*****: 58/66 (88%)
> other cmavo**: 198/203 (98%)
> all cmavo: 1382/1427 (97%)
>
> =3D brivla =3D
> gismu***: 1286/1341 (92%)
>
> =3D rafsi =3D
> short rafsi****: 2775/2982 (93%)
>
> I use Anki. Anki reports that I have learned in 223 out of 407 days.
>
>
>
> I am quite sad that, after a year of learning, I still have not reached
> the 100% mark. I am quite pissed off by the fact that there is a small
> percentage left for me, yet I can=E2=80=99t seem to climb it for a while =
now.
>
> I therefore concluded that from now on, I try to learn harder.
> I noticed that with Anki I learned less and less cards each day until
> Anki said that I have =E2=80=9Cfinished=E2=80=9D. I try a different appro=
ach now: The
> next 7 days, I try to learn at least 2 hours a day, regardless of how
> many cards I munch in this time. After the 7 days have passed, I=E2=80=99=
ll
> report back here with new statistics for you to munch.
>
> Have others here also trouble learning the last bits of the basic
> vocabulary? Are you stuck around 95% for a longer time, too? Have you
> already surpassed it?
>
> FOOTNOTES:
> ** =3D may overlap with the other categories
> *** =3D includes learning the place structure
> **** =3D back and forth
> ***** =3D VEI, VEhO, VUhU, PEhO, KUhE, FUhA, JOhI, LI, MAhO
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Well, I don&#39;t know how to measure real knowledge of wo=
rds. cmavo definitions are cryptic and knowing the translation doesnt alway=
s help using it immediately in speech.<div><br></div><div>Also I don&#39;t =
know why everyone should know *all* words of the language when this never h=
appens for speakers of natlangs.</div>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-05=
-27 19:28 GMT+04:00 &#39;Wuzzy&#39; via lojban <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:lojban@googlegroups.com" target=3D"_blank">lojban@googlegroups.=
com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi!<br>
It was roughly 1 year ago when I have discovered Lojban and started to<br>
learn it.<br>
<br>
Some people may remember that I have started a poll a while ago about<br>
learning the words of Lojban.<br>
<br>
Since then, my percentage improved.<br>
<br>
So here are some statistics for you to munch:<br>
<br>
=3D cmavo**** =3D<br>
BAI and BAI*: 370/382 cards (97%)<br>
COI and COI*: 54/54 (100%)<br>
KOhA: 45/45 (100%)<br>
PA: 89/91 (97%)<br>
UI1 and UI*1: 181/190 (95%)<br>
UI and UI* without UI1 and UI*1: 213/218 (97%)<br>
tense cmavo: 174/178 (98%)<br>
mekso cmavo*****: 58/66 (88%)<br>
other cmavo**: 198/203 (98%)<br>
all cmavo: 1382/1427 (97%)<br>
<br>
=3D brivla =3D<br>
gismu***: 1286/1341 (92%)<br>
<br>
=3D rafsi =3D<br>
short rafsi****: 2775/2982 (93%)<br>
<br>
I use Anki. Anki reports that I have learned in 223 out of 407 days.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I am quite sad that, after a year of learning, I still have not reached<br>
the 100% mark. I am quite pissed off by the fact that there is a small<br>
percentage left for me, yet I can=E2=80=99t seem to climb it for a while no=
w.<br>
<br>
I therefore concluded that from now on, I try to learn harder.<br>
I noticed that with Anki I learned less and less cards each day until<br>
Anki said that I have =E2=80=9Cfinished=E2=80=9D. I try a different approac=
h now: The<br>
next 7 days, I try to learn at least 2 hours a day, regardless of how<br>
many cards I munch in this time. After the 7 days have passed, I=E2=80=99ll=
<br>
report back here with new statistics for you to munch.<br>
<br>
Have others here also trouble learning the last bits of the basic<br>
vocabulary? Are you stuck around 95% for a longer time, too? Have you<br>
already surpassed it?<br>
<br>
FOOTNOTES:<br>
** =3D may overlap with the other categories<br>
*** =3D includes learning the place structure<br>
**** =3D back and forth<br>
***** =3D VEI, VEhO, VUhU, PEhO, KUhE, FUhA, JOhI, LI, MAhO<br>
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