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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday, May 29, 2014 14:03:39 Jonathan Jones wrote: > > cmavo clusters never have consonant clusters, lujvo always do. > > Not quite. A lujvo can contain a sequence of a consonant, 'y', and a > consonant. So can a cmavo cluster. > > ledycilta (hypha) > le dycilta (D's thread, but some parsers may choke) > ledy cilta (D's thread) > lekybumoi (the Qth, I think valfendi chokes on this) > lekybumru (cold fog) > > Pierre > -- > ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Except that 'y' doesn't count as a letter when determining if there's a cmavo cluster, and "D's thread" is {le dy. clita}. Written or not, the pause after the 'y' is required.


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 14:03:39 Jonathan Jones wrote:
> cmavo clusters never have consonant clusters, lujvo always do.

Not quite. A lujvo can contain a sequence of a consonant, 'y', and a
consonant. So can a cmavo cluster.

ledycilta (hypha)
le dycilta (D's thread, but some parsers may choke)
ledy cilta (D's thread)
lekybumoi (the Qth, I think valfendi chokes on this)
lekybumru (cold fog)

Pierre
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ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji

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