Received: from mail-la0-f56.google.com ([209.85.215.56]:42054) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WsUqW-00073a-Mo for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:43 -0700 Received: by mail-la0-f56.google.com with SMTP id mc6sf88327lab.11 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=eGIDLWMZUiz8dSD8T+mO9Qae33qA1paoZOGk+mikt38=; b=fRdZo+Bi6AEfQXIrMTGj4ISmGdF/anxyiVpchECdApHuy0A4S/iqX96FRE718AWMZ0 B5C2VNB3jMMl5XhrFaiNPNZKG/Eqz5iWvR4pyFTcChptoG5uMVjht6ls4BH9SWYV1daI vkXZAE9Wz3vmgg/qaI3IcVsLRxEJPDfNCl2o1R5n+YxrT9MOU+rlew6eEmBAKygmbXWf K1hbqXLGBn7UE4TI2KpX17g25Wzi1VjQzi+tv5p6Pc20xdJBt7RSgFK0mEqz5Utoy6mj TAIqB5TJDF72UWdfLVkYgYezLJTrDc+cumt/kRg1fSm6x5SIUL2VT4q/4FCmGR/4hDjl n0LQ== X-Received: by 10.152.43.202 with SMTP id y10mr10621lal.33.1401963864791; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.5.200 with SMTP id u8ls29369lau.33.gmail; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.188.227 with SMTP id gd3mr2027940lbc.13.1401963864251; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x235.google.com (mail-we0-x235.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h4si1480593wib.2.2014.06.05.03.24.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::235; Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id w61so812096wes.26 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.240.33 with SMTP id vx1mr14456235wjc.88.1401963864116; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 03:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.163 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 03:24:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53903D84.90502@gmx.de> References: <53903D84.90502@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:24:23 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1b5f01bd69504fb1426eb X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c1b5f01bd69504fb1426eb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Changed to: simxu1 x1 (plural of any type) porsi1 x1 (ordered plural of any type) porsi3 x3 (plural of any type) rilti1 x1 (ordered plural of any type) casnu1 x1 (object) liste2 x2 (plural) lerfu2 x2 (ordered plural of any type) pruce4 x4 (ordered plural of events) I'm thinking of changing both "object" and "event" into "located" (until a better English gloss for this type is found). Ofc. simple global replacement can lead in the list to possible mistakes to be fixed. (set) pseudo-type will be dealt with separately. As for emotions/attitudes everyone is also welcome to suggest corrections for the semantic columns. 2014-06-05 13:51 GMT+04:00 selpa'i : > la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e > > Which places besides porsi1 are you going to be marking with ce'o? >> liste1? lerfu2? pruce4? >> > > bridi3 seems to be an important one. I'm wondering if we should turn > {ce'o} from an "ordered {ce}" into an "ordered {jo'u}" to make it more > practical. As an ordered {ce}, we can't say {mi ce'o do nerkla}, but as > ordered {jo'u} we could. Then porsi1 is an ordered plural, and things > become more flexible. > > mi'e la selpa'i mu'o > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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Changed to:
simxu1=C2=A0x1 (plural of any type)<= br>
porsi1=C2=A0x1 (ordered plural of any type)
porsi3=C2=A0x3 (plur= al of any type)
rilti1=C2=A0x1 (ordered plural of any type)
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casnu1 x1 (object)
liste2 x2 (plural)
lerfu2=C2=A0x2 (ordered plural of any type)
pruce4= x4 (ordered plural of events)

I'm thinking of changing both &qu= ot;object" and "event" into "located" (until a bet= ter English gloss for this type is found). Ofc. simple global replacement c= an lead in the list to possible mistakes to be fixed.

(set) pseudo-type will be dealt with separately.

As for emotions= /attitudes everyone is also welcome to suggest corrections for the semantic= columns.




2014-06-05 13:51 GMT+04:00 selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>:
la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e

Which places besides porsi1 are you going to be marking with ce'o?
liste1? lerfu2? pruce4?

bridi3 seems to be an important one. I'm wondering if we should turn {c= e'o} from an "ordered {ce}" into an "ordered {jo'u}&= quot; to make it more practical. As an ordered {ce}, we can't say {mi c= e'o do nerkla}, but as ordered {jo'u} we could. Then porsi1 is an o= rdered plural, and things become more flexible.

mi'e la selpa'i mu'o

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