Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::233;
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <CAO7bV+hxGZiY==1Ck9N6s2wvFaB5wiqK=Hgszio0=JGuWB_rfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO7bV+hTWfbg8uLyDGLgwwUXBmW+aCq_URk_vBu1SfVJ0ud0DQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7tK2cPXVejvLmJHWeyrojzWSfsBK+N5HnDJZhwXcr7GemH2A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7bV+h=35QoraULFcZF8tUeKBKcr6DqevZwehNWP-G3UsuRxA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7tK2fVQ-ud7nrMzOXmoRXXOnLROSgLrDbxp3Sf=AgfsX3SMA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7bV+gQ7w=z_hhRpTqZTv6H+=d9swtB-UYq_WHt9TVP8nW=8g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7tK2eOSCMaGgNkmj8QopgTcgMUvKdDj7KNcE3Vb5yZq0M4ow@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7bV+g5-HMG94pZfN0nvsMb+EKigdqv5ktSYhrFK8QQT71Wpg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7tK2dT-o9z82B+dZORP17gBMYxk0DNcXkj6_aL3-+tt=f4ag@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7bV+gVF6mq8dU5yRbw09ks_GbPm6dsEZaYDkk83WPW5XA5=Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7tK2fanTdS+4sd0yu3_Kvmn87aGpbQ5dv77FSn5WnnMefLzQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7bV+ge=st5nhwO=9VQO3Qf0ptD8-6GHwG8w2+K95BgXk7ZOQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7tK2eoi-S3GuLtmwVNe-=WxPLuS=6ODZR3AOSfzHxSWTN-ZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7bV+hLLURQ56VFhPhWvfPDh0L0pFXRibsqOvBZdcx6-YX5_A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO7tK2eQkF+JtsibQNtk5E0AkJHC5su++bLdKba6yH2gXph6ZA@mail.gmail.com>
	<53903D84.90502@gmx.de>
	<CAO7bV+hxGZiY==1Ck9N6s2wvFaB5wiqK=Hgszio0=JGuWB_rfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 21:56:16 +0400
Message-ID: <CAO7bV+gCG1YLCtgnC7R=imRwBaCCA2hzAZbor9YRcTD9QO3=dg@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete
From: Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com
Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d0438953920d77f04fb1a7651
X-Spam_score: -2.6
X-Spam_score_int: -25
X-Spam_bar: --

--f46d0438953920d77f04fb1a7651
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Another tesumti interaction i clean forgot to add to the list is {ce'u}
inside {be}.
E.g. junla = x1 is clock/watch/timer measuring time units x2 to precision
x3 ...
Here x3 is the same as the second place of x2 (junla lo snidu [be lipimu]
lipimu)

A similar behaviour is for {cortu}.

By default {mi cortu lo xance} = {mi cortu lo xance be mi}

The second {mi} of course can be changed but only if we are talking about
Avatar technologies.
Still by default it is the same as x1 of the outer bridi, i.e. cortu1.

I'm not sure about sevzi2 but I think it should also be x1 be default so
that
{mi catra lo sevzi} = {mi catra lo sevzi be mi}.

This would make sez-/se'i- lujvo perfect jvajvo.


2014-06-05 14:24 GMT+04:00 Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>:

> Changed to:
> simxu1 x1 (plural of any type)
> porsi1 x1 (ordered plural of any type)
> porsi3 x3 (plural of any type)
> rilti1 x1 (ordered plural of any type)
> casnu1 x1 (object)
> liste2 x2 (plural)
> lerfu2 x2 (ordered plural of any type)
> pruce4 x4 (ordered plural of events)
>
> I'm thinking of changing both "object" and "event" into "located" (until a
> better English gloss for this type is found). Ofc. simple global
> replacement can lead in the list to possible mistakes to be fixed.
>
> (set) pseudo-type will be dealt with separately.
>
> As for emotions/attitudes everyone is also welcome to suggest corrections
> for the semantic columns.
>
>
>
>
> 2014-06-05 13:51 GMT+04:00 selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de>:
>
> la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e
>>
>>  Which places besides porsi1 are you going to be marking with ce'o?
>>> liste1? lerfu2? pruce4?
>>>
>>
>> bridi3 seems to be an important one. I'm wondering if we should turn
>> {ce'o} from an "ordered {ce}" into an "ordered {jo'u}" to make it more
>> practical. As an ordered {ce}, we can't say {mi ce'o do nerkla}, but as
>> ordered {jo'u} we could. Then porsi1 is an ordered plural, and things
>> become more flexible.
>>
>> mi'e la selpa'i mu'o
>>
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "lojban" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

--f46d0438953920d77f04fb1a7651
Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">Another tesumti interaction i clean forgot to add to the l=
ist is {ce&#39;u} inside {be}.<div>E.g. junla =3D=C2=A0x1 is clock/watch/ti=
mer measuring time units x2 to precision x3 ...<br>Here x3 is the same as t=
he second place of x2 (junla lo snidu [be lipimu] lipimu)<br>
<br>A similar behaviour is for {cortu}.<br><br>By default {mi cortu lo xanc=
e} =3D {mi cortu lo xance be mi}<br><br>The second {mi} of course can be ch=
anged but only if we are talking about Avatar technologies.<br>Still by def=
ault it is the same as x1 of the outer bridi, i.e. cortu1.<br>
<br>I&#39;m not sure about sevzi2 but I think it should also be x1 be defau=
lt so that=C2=A0<br>{mi catra lo sevzi} =3D {mi catra lo sevzi be mi}.<br><=
br>This would make sez-/se&#39;i- lujvo perfect jvajvo.</div></div><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-06-05 14:24 GMT+04:00 Gleki Arxokun=
a <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Changed to:</div>simxu1=C2=A0x1 (plural of any type)<=
br><div>porsi1=C2=A0x1 (ordered plural of any type)<br>porsi3=C2=A0x3 (plur=
al of any type)</div><div>rilti1=C2=A0x1 (ordered plural of any type)</div>=
<div>casnu1 x1 (object)<br>

liste2 x2 (plural)<br>lerfu2=C2=A0x2 (ordered plural of any type)<br>pruce4=
 x4 (ordered plural of events)<br><br>I&#39;m thinking of changing both &qu=
ot;object&quot; and &quot;event&quot; into &quot;located&quot; (until a bet=
ter English gloss for this type is found). Ofc. simple global replacement c=
an lead in the list to possible mistakes to be fixed.<br>

<br>(set) pseudo-type will be dealt with separately.<br><br>As for emotions=
/attitudes everyone is also welcome to suggest corrections for the semantic=
 columns.<br><br><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">

2014-06-05 13:51 GMT+04:00 selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:seladwa@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span>:<div><d=
iv class=3D"h5"><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0=
 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

la .xorxes. cu cusku di&#39;e<div><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Which places besides porsi1 are you going to be marking with ce&#39;o?<br>
liste1? lerfu2? pruce4?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
bridi3 seems to be an important one. I&#39;m wondering if we should turn {c=
e&#39;o} from an &quot;ordered {ce}&quot; into an &quot;ordered {jo&#39;u}&=
quot; to make it more practical. As an ordered {ce}, we can&#39;t say {mi c=
e&#39;o do nerkla}, but as ordered {jo&#39;u} we could. Then porsi1 is an o=
rdered plural, and things become more flexible.<br>


<br>
mi&#39;e la selpa&#39;i mu&#39;o<div><div><br>
<br>
-- <br>
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &=
quot;lojban&quot; group.<br>
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e=
mail to <a href=3D"mailto:lojban%2Bunsubscribe@googlegroups.com" target=3D"=
_blank">lojban+unsubscribe@<u></u>googlegroups.com</a>.<br>
To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:lojban@googlegroups.=
com" target=3D"_blank">lojban@googlegroups.com</a>.<br>
Visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/lojban" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://groups.google.com/<u></u>group/lojban</a>.<br>
For more options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/d/optout" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://groups.google.com/d/<u></u>optout</a>.<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

<p></p>

-- <br />
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &=
quot;lojban&quot; group.<br />
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e=
mail to <a href=3D"mailto:lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com">lojban+unsub=
scribe@googlegroups.com</a>.<br />
To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:lojban@googlegroups.=
com">lojban@googlegroups.com</a>.<br />
Visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/lojban">http:=
//groups.google.com/group/lojban</a>.<br />
For more options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/d/optout">http=
s://groups.google.com/d/optout</a>.<br />

--f46d0438953920d77f04fb1a7651--