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Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:53:10 -0300
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:51 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:

> la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e
>
>  Which places besides porsi1 are you going to be marking with ce'o?
>> liste1? lerfu2? pruce4?
>>
>
> bridi3 seems to be an important one. I'm wondering if we should turn
> {ce'o} from an "ordered {ce}" into an "ordered {jo'u}" to make it more
> practical. As an ordered {ce}, we can't say {mi ce'o do nerkla}, but as
> ordered {jo'u} we could.


I think it is in practice used as an ordered "jo'u" more often than not.


> Then porsi1 is an ordered plural, and things become more flexible.


If it's not the case that "lo porsi cu gunma fi lo te porsi", then I don't
see much point in "porsi" having three places though. I have been thinking
of "porsi" as meaning "x1 is a sequence/queue/succession/row/series/train
of x3" rather than as "x1 are in a sequence/queue/..."

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:51 AM, selpa&#39;i <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8=
ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-sty=
le:solid;padding-left:1ex">
la .xorxes. cu cusku di&#39;e<div class=3D""><br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
Which places besides porsi1 are you going to be marking with ce&#39;o?<br>
liste1? lerfu2? pruce4?<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div>
bridi3 seems to be an important one. I&#39;m wondering if we should turn {c=
e&#39;o} from an &quot;ordered {ce}&quot; into an &quot;ordered {jo&#39;u}&=
quot; to make it more practical. As an ordered {ce}, we can&#39;t say {mi c=
e&#39;o do nerkla}, but as ordered {jo&#39;u} we could. </blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>I think it is in practice used as an ordered &quot;jo&#=
39;u&quot; more often than not. =C2=A0<br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width=
:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex">
Then porsi1 is an ordered plural, and things become more flexible.</blockqu=
ote><div><br></div><div>If it&#39;s not the case that &quot;lo porsi cu gun=
ma fi lo te porsi&quot;, then I don&#39;t see much point in &quot;porsi&quo=
t; having three places though. I have been thinking of &quot;porsi&quot; as=
 meaning &quot;x1 is a sequence/queue/succession/row/series/train of x3&quo=
t; rather than as &quot;x1 are in a sequence/queue/...&quot;</div>
<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div></div></div></div>

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