Received: from mail-wi0-f188.google.com ([209.85.212.188]:48896) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WsoiN-0000Tr-Vr for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:35 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f188.google.com with SMTP id bs8sf41437wib.25 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=L3QyteylgSBALo8+hMjWlmZIZ6AV5+FhVmRPz0ZzGaA=; b=fxYZ17nzwugOrisop9pcXOlXzM8kvEn2q1XA6s1chTDgxDe+XvmpWws4I/bRspzy2Y o2d1DvM36vbsLXzMLrvePle9mT5YAWxBFHDGRhFIMQ4Nr9y5G/RkgKmFjY8uUF4Iu4Pi S676sIdgAspYlTQ5aIGl5vVci64uvZe66ZI2A9WByIgvTh1DNxyaGi4mqCgLSA2aE9Mg 5mYzwnSd7tOSr1IKlGjIjPxFeUBudJMNQo0fUAGp8wuFf5e/fxPaXViW3/owMaucityC nLdA7gD5tMCLCOWCI83LBdZ+ZUJ8/YFE5MyVqa8tE9X1WtYdmOVZBxoBJtbh2RsUhjtS iKow== X-Received: by 10.152.43.16 with SMTP id s16mr2413lal.15.1402040240656; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.29.100 with SMTP id j4ls115332lah.91.gmail; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.152.115.195 with SMTP id jq3mr1100222lab.4.1402040239879; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com (mail-we0-x22f.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e12si1580848wiv.1.2014.06.06.00.37.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f; Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id p10so2396865wes.34 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.62.176 with SMTP id z16mr4131998wjr.76.1402040239740; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.163 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 00:37:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53903D84.90502@gmx.de> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:37:19 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba979c2735e2a04fb25ee33 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7ba979c2735e2a04fb25ee33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2014-06-06 3:08 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:24 AM, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > >> Changed to: >> simxu1 x1 (plural of any type) >> porsi1 x1 (ordered plural of any type) >> porsi3 x3 (plural of any type) >> rilti1 x1 (ordered plural of any type) >> casnu1 x1 (object) >> liste2 x2 (plural) >> lerfu2 x2 (ordered plural of any type) >> pruce4 x4 (ordered plural of events) >> > > I think lerfu2 is not in general plural > Then how would you describe lerfu2? As for types it can be either located (aka "object/event") or text (e.g. letters). But what about it being a set? Compare e.g. mlatu1 and lerfu2. What is it that they they differ in? If you do think they can both be named "sets" then of course i'll remove this "set" as a role/type ... whatever you call it since then "set" would be meaningless. , while casnu1 is. > fxd > If rilti1 is meant to be plural then perhaps "rythmical" might be a bette= r > gloss, since "a rhythm" is obviously singular. > fxd > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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2014-06-06 3:08 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <= ;jjllambias@gmail= .com>:
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:24 = AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wro= te:
Changed to:
simxu= 1=C2=A0x1 (plural of any type)
porsi1=C2=A0x1 (ordered plural of an= y type)
porsi3=C2=A0x3 (plural of any type)
rilti1=C2=A0x1 (ordered plural of any type)
casnu1 x1 (objec= t)
liste2 x2 (plural)
lerfu2=C2=A0x2 (ordered plural of any type)
pruce4= x4 (ordered plural of events)

<= /div>
I think lerfu2 is not in general plural

Then how would you describe lerfu2? As for types it can= be either located (aka "object/event") or text (e.g. letters).
But what about it being a set? Compare e.g. mlatu1 and lerfu2. What i= s it that they they differ in?
If you do think they can both be named "sets" then of course i= 9;ll remove this "set" as a role/type ... whatever you call it si= nce then "set" would be meaningless.


, while casnu1 is.

fxd
=C2=A0
If rilti1 is meant to be plural then perhaps "rythmical" might = be a better gloss, since "a rhythm" is obviously singular.=C2=A0<= /div>

fxd
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mu'o mi'e xorxes

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