Received: from mail-wi0-f186.google.com ([209.85.212.186]:53549) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WtAI9-0001gl-Ti for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:40:01 -0700 Received: by mail-wi0-f186.google.com with SMTP id ho1sf242274wib.13 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:39:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=lTHI129dJG+kwMgkdeku7z9XJoC3Rmgvm/oR2g4L2pQ=; b=pCX/RTM9huoOMTd83okUtLuj+V7Au7MgKgV76iMpQVz+UbdRR/CyHN2j6wQjX7qOOc h/e86AyCpBTu8mRDPEyNBZ5dhf1XnpvUxuvSLcLYjqh2U7VuXC8n9BOW9zVtrCO7Yhme GzVIvZqwj8OUPSknvlNpdW4V4i0uchoDsvq64pkHFFi28njShElamOgj+QgIDTkut4c9 LPZUaBU6+7rdWFwuYO6G1F97hHCXSvJ2x+BzC0nTqz/HAbD4tLGnewAot9NQ9li0cKoL kAFfwaA9gmMoAQz0btJZzHVjJmzeVRVV49uwAdgMmy7GwRmkrocui0/7RMTMa1bRICk6 jWBQ== X-Received: by 10.152.27.168 with SMTP id u8mr140666lag.0.1402123182613; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:39:42 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.18.228 with SMTP id z4ls193279lad.109.gmail; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:39:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.157.129 with SMTP id wm1mr60680lbb.17.1402123181644; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22f.google.com (mail-we0-x22f.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eh2si70490wib.2.2014.06.06.23.39.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f; Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id p10so3704140wes.20 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:39:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.211.146 with SMTP id nc18mr13638922wic.53.1402123181470; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.163 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 23:39:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53903D84.90502@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 10:39:41 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3890a29b97604fb393e4a X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c3890a29b97604fb393e4a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2014-06-07 2:29 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas : > > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:40 AM, Gleki Arxokuna > wrote: > >> >> I propose "x1 is a self of x2 (x1 by default)". >> > > I think a better definition for "sevzi" would have been "x1 does x2 to > itself", parallel to "simxu": > > ko'a simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u prami > ko'a love one another. > > ko'a sevzi lo ka ce'u ce'u prami > ko'a love themselves. > > Or with lujvo: ko'a pamsi'u, ko'a pamse'i > This is no longer {sevzi} but another gismu. > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c3890a29b97604fb393e4a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



2014-06-07 2:29 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <= ;jjllambias@gmail= .com>:



On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 = at 4:40 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
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I propose "x1 is a self of x2 (x1 = by default)".

I think a be= tter definition for "sevzi" would have been "x1 does x2 to i= tself", parallel to "simxu":

ko'= ;a simxu lo ka ce'u ce'u prami
ko'a love one another.

ko'a sevzi lo = ka ce'u ce'u prami
ko'a love themselves.
Or with lujvo: ko'a pamsi'u, ko'a pamse'i

This is no longer {sevzi= } =C2=A0but another gismu.


mu'o mi'e xorxes
=C2=A0=C2=A0

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