Received: from mail-pb0-f58.google.com ([209.85.160.58]:61863) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WtTRv-0003wE-5J for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:18 -0700 Received: by mail-pb0-f58.google.com with SMTP id jt11sf1053205pbb.13 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Rq3K8F4FiBQ1pn5J7Do5DlTsLYkjE9fDLdQcw7hWMVU=; b=t7ysxip5C1m0J/u3gdWh4YVZhWQn3ipBvhkJy3EpdWVAasq6PMkQyRb1+vUZaAAjTA 2v3fkJbzl7pyrP30a7Gd7CNOeorWEBfIzETRfc3+lWbwjLj1rfRus1Eyo2dnMH09h9/q 0U3z8vFSY73ITFM+bz9+AAhJ0DEuaxdPsoffaiN9lvOB8AVBKzma4N9SvJODKk9/cvyy 6/HxPcRkeQX3TrCXrWg4rkNlYyojNAym6h/UPWoCUQYdpZ8pbYqMdHkMimJZsQM8+/PF HEid59hZEDc4mNP7HqKSJJ7P7XyRFvhzVqOghQ8iYXoaLaBy8F89v9qpAJTJj9FC19zl 9BzA== X-Received: by 10.50.124.8 with SMTP id me8mr87481igb.15.1402196825192; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.51.33 with SMTP id h1ls714725igo.7.canary; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.55.35 with SMTP id o3mr8002045igp.6.1402196824677; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22f.google.com (mail-qa0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6si2098600qco.2.2014.06.07.20.07.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f; Received: by mail-qa0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id s7so6336889qap.20 for ; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.7.135 with SMTP id d7mr21763996qad.89.1402196824579; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.29.247 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 20:07:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53903D84.90502@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 23:07:04 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c28da2a27d7e04fb4a63fc X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c28da2a27d7e04fb4a63fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas = wrote: > > (2) I don't think cpedu2 should be limited to properties, especially when > the property holder comes later in the structure. > > I disagree with this one, I think anything other than ka in cpedu2 is raising. You're asking them to do something, so if the objective you're talking about is some other event which does not have the cpedu3 in it directly, then use {tu'a}, {lo ka ce'u gasnu ...}, or something similar. mi'e la latro'a mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a11c28da2a27d7e04fb4a63fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias= @gmail.com> wrote:
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(2) I don't think cpedu2 should be= limited to properties, especially when the property holder comes later in = the structure.=C2=A0

I disagree wit= h this one, I think anything other than ka in cpedu2 is raising. You're= asking them to do something, so if the objective you're talking about = is some other event which does not have the cpedu3 in it directly, then use= {tu'a}, {lo ka ce'u gasnu ...}, or something similar.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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