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Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete
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On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote=
:

> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> (2) I don't think cpedu2 should be limited to properties, especially whe=
n
>> the property holder comes later in the structure.
>>
>> I disagree with this one, I think anything other than ka in cpedu2 is
> raising. You're asking them to do something, so if the objective you're
> talking about is some other event which does not have the cpedu3 in it
> directly, then use {tu'a}, {lo ka ce'u gasnu ...}, or something similar.
>

I was thinking of objects rather than events. This really should be
discussed within the wider frame of all the possession and transfer
predicates, so I will leave my comments for later.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:blindbravado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blindbravado@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"">On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:08 PM, =
Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">(2) I don&#39;t think cpedu2 should be=
 limited to properties, especially when the property holder comes later in =
the structure.=C2=A0</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div>I disagr=
ee with this one, I think anything other than ka in cpedu2 is raising. You&=
#39;re asking them to do something, so if the objective you&#39;re talking =
about is some other event which does not have the cpedu3 in it directly, th=
en use {tu&#39;a}, {lo ka ce&#39;u gasnu ...}, or something similar.</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I was thinking of object=
s rather than events. This really should be discussed within the wider fram=
e of all the possession and transfer predicates, so I will leave my comment=
s for later.</div>
<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div></div></div></div>

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