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On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Joshua Anon wrote: > So how about: > > c2. .i zi'o marde fi mi .i Non-existant are morals > applying to me. > c3. nunzi'e Freedom. > > That solves both problems you mentioned, correct? > > > On Sunday, June 8, 2014 11:46:47 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote: > >> {vau} would make {.einai} apply to the entire bridi. You may want to >> consider {nunzi'e} instead- {.einai} means "freedom" as in not feeling as >> though X is something you have to do, not "freedom" as in "freedom of >> speech". >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Joshua Anon wrote: >> >>> c2: If I eliminated {.ia} and annexed a {vau} or {.i} to the end of this >>> line, would that fix the problem of {.einai} modifying {mi}? >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+un...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to loj...@googlegroups.com. >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! 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Yes, but you don't need to get rid of {.ia} if you don= 't want to.


On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Joshua Anon &= lt;jtt96@mail.com&g= t; wrote:
So how about:

c2. .i zi'o marde fi = mi .i =A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 Non-existant are mora= ls applying to me.
c3. nunzi'e =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Freedom.


That solves bot= h problems you mentioned, correct?


On Sunday, June 8= , 2014 11:46:47 AM UTC-4, aionys wrote:
{vau} would make {.einai} apply to the ent= ire bridi. You may want to consider {nunzi'e} instead- {.einai} means &= quot;freedom" as in not feeling as though X is something you have to d= o, not "freedom" as in "freedom of speech".



On = Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Joshua Anon <jt...@mai= l.com> wrote:
c2: If I eliminated {.ia} and annexed a {vau} or {.i} to t= he end of this line, would that fix the problem of {.einai} modifying {mi}?=

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