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Subject: Re: [lojban] Possession/transfer/exchange predicates
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2014-06-09 2:07 GMT+04:00 Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias@gmail.com>:

> There are other words that involve possession/transfer/exchange but for
> which the gismu list doesn't say anything explicitly about "sumti-raising=
",
> for example:
> claxu/pindi/ricfu/punji/sabji/jmina/dejni/jarco/lebna/cpacu/jbera/cuxna/v=
imcu/cpedu/mipri/sisku/sarji
> /cupra/dirce/ferti/xaksu/tisna/daspo/ralte
>


punji2 or punji3 being a property?
sabji2 =3D property of x3.
not sure how to use properties in {jmina}.
lebna2=3Dproperty of x3
jbera2=3Dproperty of x3?
cuxna2=3D any type, property of x1?
sarji. any examples with a property?
ferti2. is it to be a metaphor when property is used?
xaksu2?
tisna2?

ralte2 being a property sounds strange. {mi ralte lo ka bilma}? If so it
should have a different gloss rather than just "to keep".

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">2014-06-09 2:07 GMT+04:00 Jorge=
 Llamb=C3=ADas <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jjllambias@gmail.com=
" target=3D"_blank">jjllambias@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra">
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204=
);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0=
,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">There are other words that involve possession/t=
ransfer/exchange but for which the gismu list doesn&#39;t say anything expl=
icitly about &quot;sumti-raising&quot;, for example: claxu/pindi/ricfu/punj=
i/sabji/jmina/dejni/jarco/lebna/cpacu/jbera/cuxna/vimcu/cpedu/mipri/sisku/s=
arji</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:pre-wrap">/cupra/dir=
ce/ferti/xaksu/tisna/daspo/ralte</span></div>


<div></div></blockquote></div><br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">punj=
i2 or punji3 being a property?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">sabji2 =3D p=
roperty of x3.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">not sure how to use properti=
es in {jmina}.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra">lebna2=3Dproperty of x3</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra">jbera2=3Dproperty of x3?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;whit=
e-space:pre-wrap">cuxna2=3D any type, property of x1?</span><br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-famil=
y:arial,sans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">sarji. any exa=
mples with a property?</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,sans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;white=
-space:pre-wrap">ferti2. is it to be a metaphor when property is used?</spa=
n></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:aria=
l,sans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">xaksu2?</span></div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:aria=
l,sans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">tisna2?</span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:aria=
l,sans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:arial,s=
ans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap">ralte2 being a property=
 sounds strange. {mi ralte lo ka bilma}? If so it should have a different g=
loss rather than just &quot;to keep&quot;.</span></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:aria=
l,sans,sans-serif;font-size:13px;white-space:pre-wrap"><br></span></div></d=
iv>

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