Received: from mail-lb0-f185.google.com ([209.85.217.185]:45110) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WuSM5-0008Mr-3z for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:19 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f185.google.com with SMTP id w7sf920138lbi.2 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qt2iFMkVCoAQ+d0wwPMW/2q6ReemWieyAixaOemKELI=; b=d5yYuRJVyV5qtypvPDdcEtZgmG7CthijDDrd/OEw5bdGa2feNO8/OAlATLEopQ0bUJ TfWgoFblQ9u/R5TQYVa3D8DZINIAm+CqCHS0P2UuhO5ywaeyYkJcLjr2/TQJWo5ZSjAF QEjWsWnBearL5r+pFMKyK8ukRWfHZs6jn0/2gjVris+jKKnPfTTKxb8tvwdTsBssmjF9 p1LyGSRMbG1s4aSL1qf9IyirRbxmdSiQjAQNMdugK2cNXvTnVvGfkkAZptumOI+aeB4G ceFVdDyNeGBHi6RExDEHq6mb3R8/wlRE1ST6klWu6BLXXip28rvbZb2fRdvDQbY9cp/A X3tw== X-Received: by 10.180.89.99 with SMTP id bn3mr120573wib.11.1402430945193; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:05 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.97.6 with SMTP id dw6ls161427wib.36.gmail; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.89.232 with SMTP id br8mr701635wib.1.1402430944559; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wi0-x22a.google.com (mail-wi0-x22a.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x7si1141989wiw.1.2014.06.10.13.09.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a; Received: by mail-wi0-f170.google.com with SMTP id cc10so2289590wib.1 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.183.131 with SMTP id em3mr32512536wic.56.1402430944454; Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([128.140.133.185]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ho2sm22786044wib.15.2014.06.10.13.09.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5397659C.9030207@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 22:07:56 +0200 From: Ilmen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Let it Go - In Lojban References: <183b72a7-dc9a-44e6-91a5-2e17b6398cde@googlegroups.com> <20140610214901.0719ff52@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <20140610214901.0719ff52@aol.com> X-Original-Sender: ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22a as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 10/06/2014, Wuzzy wrote: >> a2. .i vi claxu lo pluta >> Here there is no path. > =E2=80=9Cvi=E2=80=9D expects a sumti after it to indicate the location. > Without that, the sentence is not grammatically correct. > But you can =E2=80=9Cvi=E2=80=9D also without sumti, if you use a =E2=80= =9Cku=E2=80=9D after it. > (=E2=80=9Cvi ku=E2=80=9D). This means something like =E2=80=9Caround here= , you know what place > I am referring to=E2=80=9D (I guess). {vi claxu lo pluta} is perfectly fine. Here, {vi} acts as a selbritcita=20 (in other words, it is part of the selbri). The argument of "vi" is=20 implicitely =C2=ABzo'e=C2=BB. The selbritcita construction allows you to sa= y=20 things like {lo vi plise} (the apple nearby). mu'o mi'e la .ilmen. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.