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On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:

> How do we say "coup d'=C3=A9tat" in Lojban? The literal translation would=
 be "nu
> darxi lo jecta",


Wouldn't the literal translation be "nu darxi be _fi_ lo jecta"? "Coup de
X" is normally a stroke done by means of X, not against X, isn't it? A coup
d'=C3=A9tat is an overthrow of the government, and the faction performing i=
t
usually claims it is doing it for the state, not against it.


> and one can fill all the places with "the rebel group hit the
> state with guns in the president". Many languages use a literal
> translation of
> "hit the state". But others say "overturn the state" or borrow the German
> "Putsch".
>

Overturn the state, or the government?

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Pierre Abbat <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">How do we say &quot;coup d&#39;=C3=A9tat&quo=
t; in Lojban? The literal translation would be &quot;nu<br>
darxi lo jecta&quot;, </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Wouldn&#39;t the lit=
eral translation be &quot;nu darxi be _fi_ lo jecta&quot;? &quot;Coup de X&=
quot; is normally a stroke done by means of X, not against X, isn&#39;t it?=
 A coup d&#39;=C3=A9tat is an overthrow of the government, and the faction =
performing it usually claims it is doing it for the state, not against it.=
=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8=
ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">and one can fill all the pl=
aces with &quot;the rebel group hit the<br>
state with guns in the president&quot;. Many languages use a literal transl=
ation of<br>
&quot;hit the state&quot;. But others say &quot;overturn the state&quot; or=
 borrow the German<br>
&quot;Putsch&quot;.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Overturn the state,=
 or the government?</div><div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div>=
<div>=C2=A0</div></div></div></div>

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