Received: from mail-oa0-f60.google.com ([209.85.219.60]:33731) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Wy1rx-0001JM-Ms for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:41:19 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f60.google.com with SMTP id i7sf852033oag.15 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zo+wPG66nEQGkd5OW5wcRZzBqnZD8JiFVdMi0EXijjw=; b=v7LlC8DMlybhuRwsXDlCGikl8q9eh8W6MtehTbB0ch4/Iqj5PDfr/t6sJtqfkGWn72 0xasQIUEPn5mjRj98fu9jotV6H+kz+We/oOdaJglEveqhKmlJPp45QFZQFcXp4IrvHO6 fjyKraryTdc15Gf3xFDmBUZwrXzGgN6diEgozCNb3uJuvI/GjeCiycznWYAEB5yG2hiG 0i5pj7huLjO4sZFLx5NXMUMYIgQaiOIatsrRY9anTckN/BH9ldiISJ8eX28W0RNiK2bV 3vg/MDoo1dhNAbDACwz/PqphpaF8bnrOgRG4waMjve3aMzc3H2p4WEGaF1uU7+E5xIP4 Py5Q== X-Received: by 10.140.92.225 with SMTP id b88mr27534qge.25.1403282447365; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:47 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.38.133 with SMTP id t5ls1066503qgt.43.gmail; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.229.161 with SMTP id h31mr1528168yhq.21.1403282446961; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x236.google.com (mail-ve0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pr8si403347vdb.1.2014.06.20.09.40.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236; Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id oy12so3888079veb.27 for ; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.88.18 with SMTP id y18mr4034489vcl.26.1403282446820; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.170.73 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jun 2014 09:40:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1687814.LVyUAvcs7U@caracal> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:40:46 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Specifying sumti types: another revision of gimste is complete From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a89d2c32a7404fc472707 X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.8 X-Spam_score_int: -17 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b3a89d2c32a7404fc472707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Jacob Errington wrote: > In my theory of typed Lojban, I distinguish between evaluated numbers and > unevaluated numbers, the latter being a subcategory of text. > The types I believe in are: > * predicates (ka and du'u abstractions) > * events (nu abstractions) > * numbers and parsed text (evaluated numbers introduced generally with > {li} as well as lu..li'u quotes) > * unparsed text (introduced with zo, lo'u...le'u, zoi, and me'o) > * concrete sumti > What's the connection between numbers and parsed text? The way I see it, li and du'u are smuni1 to me'o and se du'u as smuni2 respectively, or conversely me'o and se du'u are sinxa1 to li and du'u as sinxa2. I also think me'o belongs with parsed, not unparsed text, since it's a structured set of words with a specific meaning, not just a meaningless random collection of words. > mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --047d7b3a89d2c32a7404fc472707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com= > wrote:
In my theory of typed = Lojban, I distinguish between evaluated numbers and unevaluated numbers, th= e latter being a subcategory of text.
The types I believe in are:
* predicates (ka and du'u abstractions)<= br> * events (nu abstractions)
* numbers and parsed text (evaluated numbers = introduced generally with {li} as well as lu..li'u quotes)
* unparse= d text (introduced with zo, lo'u...le'u, zoi, and me'o)
* concrete sumti

What'= s the connection between numbers and parsed text? The way I see it, li and = du'u are smuni1 to me'o and se du'u as smuni2 respectively, or = conversely me'o and se du'u are sinxa1 to li and du'u as sinxa2= .

I also think me'o belongs with parsed, not unparsed= text, since it's a structured set of words with a specific meaning, no= t just a meaningless random collection of words.=C2=A0
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mu'o mi'e xorx= es

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