Received: from mail-ve0-f185.google.com ([209.85.128.185]:61634) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1X3aYD-00068B-1K for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:39 -0700 Received: by mail-ve0-f185.google.com with SMTP id oy12sf750106veb.12 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zbrqOFNQs8pglHAV11PECbvZ6qYr45gRsEP3h6xnyoo=; b=m/wmVDdemtr+YfC/6TMRTUp+QdW7rMJFsUL6BMs8Rj97D9rX4VELRQIimReWA1g8oG wFZHLSyD1efrlSP2JvUyZDEYwdkXzcry9TDDduR1KI/vOGL+jMyBjjkpQWUwsAS/Wtwo 4tSRnsT0tDw6jFntIBRtP+F0/sI2dd0RSniFxpZaTy7P4k9fZ6j1gcafyAbfpUZeGrJF +j+FYDtYvMohvV/EikEVqYSjBOaZpaUW6EN3CBRygkGCfUctvrZvfgPrzMvO6T4QvJJC 8cX2J2bJ5O7XyWxn910WrnZ4VLspdQCJ1qUlonVTX5ReNyNKwJXC7nISrRMRPTl8wnQq /2xA== X-Received: by 10.182.33.97 with SMTP id q1mr1856obi.20.1404607396591; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.246.4 with SMTP id xs4ls524574obc.14.gmail; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.125.4 with SMTP id mm4mr1649915obb.49.1404607395941; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qg0-x235.google.com (mail-qg0-x235.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id jx1si3441154qcb.1.2014.07.05.17.43.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235; Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id i50so2525301qgf.40 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.87.163 with SMTP id r32mr29333033qgd.75.1404607395829; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.167.106 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 17:43:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3581970.3TTmMXexGp@caracal> References: <3581970.3TTmMXexGp@caracal> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 18:43:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] tsali From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c119fee0a05204fd7ba4c2 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c119fee0a05204fd7ba4c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 vlipa can possibly be used for sense 1 (using the second reading "x1 is powerful in aspect x2 under x3"), but I'd call it a huge stretch. (Not quite a square peg/round hole, more like an octagon peg.) On the other hand, jdari fits extremely well for sense 2. Coupling the aforementioned with the fact that when I think "strong", I think of muscles, not steel plating, I'd go with sense 1 for tsali. On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > "strong" in Wiktionary has the first two senses: > 1. Capable of producing great physical force. > 2. Capable of withstanding great physical force. > Other senses are related to one of these two, or are "carmi" or something > else > (like the strong verb). Which of these two senses is "tsali", and what's > the > other one? > > Pierre > -- > ve ka'a ro klaji la .romas. se jmaji > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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vlipa can possibly be used for sense 1 (using the sec= ond reading "x1 is powerful in aspect x2 under x= 3"), but I'd call it a huge stretch. (Not quite a squar= e peg/round hole, more like an octagon peg.) On the other hand, jdari fits = extremely well for sense 2. Coupling the aforementioned with the fact that = when I think "strong", I think of muscles, not steel plating, I&#= 39;d go with sense 1 for tsali.


O= n Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
"strong" in Wiktionary has the fir= st two senses:
1. Capable of producing great physical force.
2. Capable of withstanding great physical force.
Other senses are related to one of these two, or are "carmi" or s= omething else
(like the strong verb). Which of these two senses is "tsali", and= what's the
other one?

Pierre
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