Received: from mail-qa0-f62.google.com ([209.85.216.62]:48531) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1X3jze-0001NL-8p for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:28 -0700 Received: by mail-qa0-f62.google.com with SMTP id j15sf936955qaq.27 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=jjdyX2S5b1V9EGBvN4RvFm7Q4KLJ4sG+ddAL6SLabdk=; b=HRRUW8VPJsDCsauat3w3uDANso/XKHWi2gtQKnrCbmlxuqxj3INCQ1HldBmafMiMJS JkyXbEjj3JIXQBzlvUIfueKzTp4zDtEjbSDiTzW1lk824Ry3320Ydu/hEk2cIVfpHyCW tVNtx16lMD9I0VskbM1Wp3A2iiHOOFmqDHjiCdFpLepQ1xkY02EyRPjbN1fUbYP/dg+f AZ+sP+1MQ+rx89VnIT2FJ4aLB8c6zypjuYFUCuMnnWWosuPR64BpN5RJrNeR8+neeQ26 6ERDDhMUZ2F8eAh3cT8SeI7KqlSAQNjDe2b7f7ZZhbvNSvd2J4uWYZlwpRRDrYigE93P Zn9g== X-Received: by 10.140.107.137 with SMTP id h9mr11586qgf.16.1404643697061; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.25.196 with SMTP id 62ls1381584qgt.45.gmail; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.100.20 with SMTP id eu20mr11213630veb.6.1404643696675; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x231.google.com (mail-ve0-x231.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fn7si1646879vdc.1.2014.07.06.03.48.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231; Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id i13so2937152veh.8 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.221.42.135 with SMTP id ty7mr21040885vcb.14.1404643696565; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.170.73 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 03:48:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <3581970.3TTmMXexGp@caracal> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 07:48:16 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] tsali From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133997491e35304fd841882 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1133997491e35304fd841882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas = wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> "strong" in Wiktionary has the first two senses: >> 1. Capable of producing great physical force. >> 2. Capable of withstanding great physical force. >> Other senses are related to one of these two, or are "carmi" or somethin= g >> else >> (like the strong verb). Which of these two senses is "tsali", and what's >> the >> other one? >> > > I'd say 1 and "jdari". > On further thought, "tsali" can be either 1 or 2 depending on what goes in x2: tsali lo ka lacpu. tsali lo ka catke, tsali lo ka darxi, tsali lo ka gunta are 1, but tsali lo ka sarji, tsali lo ka snipa, tsali lo ka bandu, or indeed tsali lo ka jdari are 2. mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1133997491e35304fd841882 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Jorge Llamb=C3=ADas <jjllambias= @gmail.com> wrote:
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On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 8:53 = PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
"strong" in Wiktionary has the fir= st two senses:
1. Capable of producing great physical force.
2. Capable of withstanding great physical force.
Other senses are related to one of these two, or are "carmi" or s= omething else
(like the strong verb). Which of these two senses is "tsali", and= what's the
other one?

I'd say 1 and &quo= t;jdari".

On f= urther thought, "tsali" can be either 1 or 2 depending on what go= es in x2:

tsali lo ka lacpu. tsali lo ka catke, tsali lo ka darxi= , tsali lo ka gunta are 1, but tsali lo ka sarji, tsali lo ka snipa, tsali = lo ka bandu, or indeed tsali lo ka jdari are 2.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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