Received: from mail-oi0-f58.google.com ([209.85.218.58]:55048) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XFDCk-0005Q6-Sc for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:24 -0700 Received: by mail-oi0-f58.google.com with SMTP id u20sf716634oif.13 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wtR4PH5awcdYtKp0ZyFmCHJG0IMHghHn94WWTmefiKM=; b=nwsJF1bkSnEL7IbjaNGu4KECswwf+m605Y6cIvaTzgAwGJiDGn602Ltxg+I9eO0XF+ LOs6SP7A4FiBMXpOjRzm4ZrCdUt5NVLkje5te0+2msTMQTTqOPIiWzVrj2m86XYb9wuB +LcRlXPCyuSHyEXjbMdQtEVllNr1WQlxW9s0JDqRrDqKlUQLbhkaDuzsSO/EZUohBbLQ stJlksZqNmQBMZEw5J9i/JlljoWSX0D3RQlPjf14OoUNOAUv3d5jQ59sxuoOo8/kLuHP WDIYwxH9mhNumE8Wm9AGIVRK4d//PgcIhp17S0nHpbIdO4gzRJSLvxmKszLwsFSitVvI 90sQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=wtR4PH5awcdYtKp0ZyFmCHJG0IMHghHn94WWTmefiKM=; b=aa0Q9HhTKijmhXlNQB4Qdjn6ATVpYT0HxOsKlZvwTj6prSYNkci/9PvSImY9+o1ulQ 9fgWq0GEGbxZXwHLdCKl5wuONBkeho6oP6V0OvOr2o69nANF46/F/W56vapASVfEqrOW wHx51HMvg3vxL0VJZWH1wZjdBlVRX5kB134W/qE/wk0t9gPNWwzasZRZF3i2PbbJnlnO GXiQAsV9mHIk7z8TZaip90eRUb/Kj0U+j1OsgV59K7g9b0H1i8J+7rxzdRfP6+5iP/Yp oawbt3w5wKyKaA62tTswy6ZuydT2/GrqeT0xWLJPNi3Y4vevwej6La+HFABzzjSA1I8S /Q9g== X-Received: by 10.182.29.106 with SMTP id j10mr134484obh.12.1407377596441; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.101.169 with SMTP id fh9ls14846obb.56.gmail; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.104.68 with SMTP id gc4mr7839592obb.40.1407377595864; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com (mail-oi0-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z7si316719ign.2.2014.08.06.19.13.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: ross@rossogilvie.id.au does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=209.85.218.47; Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x69so2224956oia.6 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkrKam6R5URaHHbMdgRNSWsup+t5YwpgnOCpQJyoSktiJexyCB3MrqI/disbw5bcI+1I1jq X-Received: by 10.182.52.165 with SMTP id u5mr19812216obo.30.1407377594887; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:13:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.151.6 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:12:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [129.78.95.84] In-Reply-To: <543519c7-ee91-4ef3-90ed-8198ecf22b0d@googlegroups.com> References: <543519c7-ee91-4ef3-90ed-8198ecf22b0d@googlegroups.com> From: Ross Ogilvie Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:12:44 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] One end cmavo to rule them all To: lojban X-Original-Sender: ross@rossogilvie.id.au X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: ross@rossogilvie.id.au does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=ross@rossogilvie.id.au Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158aaa69bd5f8050000a166 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e0158aaa69bd5f8050000a166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 "We can't close any open clauses until we've closed that most recent one". This only sort of true. If there are a stack of open clauses, we can close several at a time by closing one in the middle of the stack, which forces all the ones more recent than that to close. If there was only one word for closing, you would have to repeat it a lot, and people aren't so good at numerically counting levels. -- Ross On 7 August 2014 11:11, TR NS wrote: > Why are there so many "end-whatever" cmavo? We can't close any open > clauses until we've closed that most recent one, correct? 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"We can't close any open clauses u= ntil we've closed that most recent one". This only sort of true. I= f there are a stack of open clauses, we can close several at a time by clos= ing one in the middle of the stack, which forces all the ones more recent t= han that to close. If there was only one word for closing, you would have t= o repeat it a lot, and people aren't so good at numerically counting le= vels.

-- Ross


On 7 August 2014 11:11, TR NS <tran= sfire@gmail.com> wrote:
Why are there so many "= ;end-whatever" cmavo? We can't close any open clauses until we'= ;ve closed that most recent one, correct? So why not just have one "en= d current clause" cmavo?

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