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On Aug 7, 2014 9:35 AM, "Gleki Arxokuna" wrote: > > > > 2014-08-07 17:14 GMT+04:00 TR NS : > >> >> >> On Thursday, August 7, 2014 1:50:31 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote: >>> >>> You are right that one can imagine a dialect with not more than two >>> slots. >>> The advantage is that there are fewer slots to remember. >>> The drawback is that there are more words to remember. >>> >>> You can create such a dialect within Lojban and it won't break Lojban. >>> You are even free to add words for it to jbvovlaste.lojban.org. >>> Whether they become popular is another question (you would probably have >>> to write texts in Lojban so that others read them and absorb your new >>> words). >>> >>> The same applies to three-slot predicates. >>> >>> >> Thanks! I don't want to create a separate dialect per se, but I would >> like to try to see all concepts covered within the first three sumti. I >> think a three slot rule of thumb is a good idea, really just a corollary of >> the more general KISS principle. I think I will pursue this, albeit just a >> little bit at a time. For now I will be happy to suggest one word that >> means `x1-travels-by-mode-x2-via-route-x3`. >> >> > x1 litru x3 fi'o marce x2. > > -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/lojban/h6yQDGV5lQw/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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litru already has that place, you don't have to add it.<= /p>

On Aug 7, 2014 9:35 AM, "Gleki Arxokuna&quo= t; <gleki.is.my.name@gmail= .com> wrote:



2014-08-07 17:14 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:


On Thursday, A= ugust 7, 2014 1:50:31 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
You are right that one can imagine a dialect with not more= than two slots.
The advantage is that there are fewer slots to remembe= r.
The drawback is that there are more words to remember.

You can create such a dialect within Lojban and it won't= break Lojban. You are even free to add words for it to jbvovlaste.lojban.org.
Whether they become popular is another question (you would probably have to= write texts in Lojban so that others read them and absorb your new words).=

The same applies to three-slot predicates.

Thanks! I don't wa= nt to create a separate dialect per se, but I would like to try to see all = concepts covered within the first three sumti. I think a three slot rule of= thumb is a good idea, really just a corollary of the more general KISS pri= nciple. I think I will pursue this, albeit just a little bit at a time. For= now I will be happy to suggest one word that means `x1-travels-by-mode-x2-= via-route-x3`.


x1 litru x3 fi'o = marce x2.

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