Received: from mail-yk0-f183.google.com ([209.85.160.183]:52621) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XG6iy-0001nE-Gp for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:21 -0700 Received: by mail-yk0-f183.google.com with SMTP id 131sf1413417ykp.10 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=I7RGtIMzodJ2U3vg8zG7ZWrmruGhbyVuqNwxxFMVdoY=; b=hfvDzgNWm+r7i0sh+qu7mqbHw+EpcpdIB1BGXMBVCJOCChwGdoA17+0a9mnuH2IM5w wjLltSSjGcPRzoHGucs6reYsLdzWGO24wYCiF8xvvqhCUR6SD3xNzu2iCkLGI1/Cs/e6 iI9tWYEyg0E36E19yzlQgLO1aa4KzJDgnhOMzYSw4z02dfWqoruBAAmG5HhMQJ4w1/C9 n1Z5SDTuqAWoEZMd2f9+q6oz11dAAyLMfhkeJm4R4dK6n3mLbX460l6VFH9EG1f5etb3 JJjQSwGle6mwmOdYAGD6B/n3SITSvHFu4F1AZ/6bdNciFHH0fz00ymBK9WBshmSOUcdZ qU8g== X-Received: by 10.50.57.113 with SMTP id h17mr214340igq.0.1407591014103; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:14 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.143.76 with SMTP id sc12ls1070276igb.3.gmail; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.85.42 with SMTP id e10mr5194645igz.0.1407591013554; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x22c.google.com (mail-vc0-x22c.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q8si318590vdg.0.2014.08.09.06.30.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22c; Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id im17so9741132vcb.31 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.144.232 with SMTP id sp8mr46236vdb.61.1407591013425; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.193.200 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 06:30:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1a05ebdb-5a99-4382-b6a3-4205d1d16ae6@googlegroups.com> <857775fe-c38f-4e84-b3b9-17034a98a989@googlegroups.com> <036a8ae9-4a0b-455c-b014-0b1a97e37d62@googlegroups.com> <20140807124944.GI28465@samsa.fritz.box> <1fa41501-809e-4157-aee4-777215596290@googlegroups.com> <20140807134047.GK28465@samsa.fritz.box> <20140807165332.GL28465@samsa.fritz.box> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:30:13 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] CLL Corrections From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jorge_Llamb=C3=ADas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=bcaec52c5dfb582ac60500325239 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --bcaec52c5dfb582ac60500325239 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, TR NS wrote: > > > My "gut" sort of revolts at this ambiguity though --I mean there is no > way to designate a sumti in a sentence while being ambiguous about exactly > which slot it is filling, is there? So it's seems odd to me that one could > do that in a subordinate clause. > You can do that by placing the sumti in the prenex: lo xanto zo'u lo nazbi [be xy] cu clani lo xanto noi lo nazbi [be ke'a] cu clani cu mabru mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --bcaec52c5dfb582ac60500325239 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

= On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:08 AM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:

=C2=A0My "g= ut" sort of revolts at this ambiguity though --I mean there is no way = to designate a sumti in a sentence while being ambiguous about exactly whic= h slot it is filling, is there? So it's seems odd to me that one could = do that in a subordinate clause.=C2=A0

You can do that by placing the sumti= in the prenex:

=C2=A0 lo xanto zo'u lo nazbi = [be xy] cu clani

=C2=A0 lo xanto noi lo nazbi [be = ke'a] cu clani cu mabru

mu'o mi'e xorxes

=C2= =A0

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