Received: from mail-ob0-f190.google.com ([209.85.214.190]:65493) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XHDyv-00005X-FU for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:29 -0700 Received: by mail-ob0-f190.google.com with SMTP id va2sf2173947obc.27 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=LG7J/X5tkxW7ah2N4KQzIqSc6F5mDr4CKgbb5R+Ucwo=; b=ZzHwf1/3hqTrTjpebgZvS3SUabHtt2NSsXxMNXfsBBnIr7k4W6kB4AynI4GlLiuWMV QbebGFq9j3uxLJvGcmt9oUhpZM7ToI9WhmQMrBvT8RAC0MQP7tREN8oO3Y1ryKnRTSgm b/4a2jMXl4FS4E3E48DKAh+YdDWi8JHLyQZ6D7j7mbmRrkbxLWzayRni0UGwuZZoyW8J C5obvxKipRJVFTTxmuB+1H4xTU9A6fqyRRoFkBLRb5N9x1AbRHcS0Z2RJdKOTCSnON98 fgexE9wHH7k0Pl334sASTKcM++UaK3cWm3ynLRCnsIlom5LXhiWLWd1Um5yZ4kwD+LSc biLg== X-Received: by 10.50.178.180 with SMTP id cz20mr690458igc.1.1407857238898; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.128.202 with SMTP id nq10ls2672528igb.43.canary; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.160.164 with SMTP id xl4mr389556pab.48.1407857238484; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x236.google.com (mail-vc0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sq8si607061vdb.2.2014.08.12.08.27.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236; Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hy4so13350903vcb.41 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.220.186.196 with SMTP id ct4mr1452350vcb.63.1407857238238; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:27:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.148.211 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 08:26:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140812093640.GX28465@samsa.fritz.box> References: <20140812093640.GX28465@samsa.fritz.box> From: ".arpis." Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:26:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] GameplaySearch Kickstarter 2014 To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b676312946e980500704eee X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --047d7b676312946e980500704eee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I second {la van}. Lojban's semantics are not fully specified, and even parsing it correctly is tricky in some cases. Also, expecting your users to learn lojban is unrealistic. You might want to look into Attempto Controlled English [1], but I'd focus on getting the query language right and general and helping users construct queries rather than parsing human language. Also, I tried to use the advanced search on your website and got an error. Steps taken 1. Click on "advanced search" 2. Select "Final Destination", "Mr. Game & Watch", and "Sheik (If you should only be able to select one of each category, you should be using radio buttons, not check boxes) 3. Click on "continue" 4. Get uninformative webpage that says "Error" and "Sorry, an error occurred." [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempto_Controlled_English On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:36 AM, v4hn wrote: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 12:13:54AM -0700, GameplaySearch wrote: > > This query language parses a subset of English, > > but can easily be extended to parse full-blown Lojban > > I believe that the very moment I see it. > pe'i You're overly confident. > > It's _not_ easy to support the semantics of "full-blown Lojban". > Otherwise lots of projects would do that already.. > There are some attempts out there, but well... To the best of my > knowledge, they all fall short of various aspects. > > > mi'e la .van. mu'o > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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I second {la van}. Lojban= 9;s semantics are not fully specified, and even parsing it correctly is tri= cky in some cases. Also, expecting your users to learn lojban is unrealisti= c.

You might want to look into Attempto Controlled English [1], but = I'd focus on getting the query language right and general and helping u= sers construct queries rather than parsing human language.

Also, I tried to use the advanced search on your website and got an error. = Steps taken
1. Click on "advanced search"
2. Se= lect "Final Destination", "Mr. Game & Watch", and &= quot;Sheik (If you should only be able to select one of each category, you = should be using radio buttons, not check boxes)
3. Click on "continue"
4. Get uninformative webpag= e that says=C2=A0"Error" and "Sorry, an error occurred."= ;

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