Received: from mail-yk0-f184.google.com ([209.85.160.184]:61099) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XJX1J-0001d1-6w for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:11:26 -0700 Received: by mail-yk0-f184.google.com with SMTP id 19sf1388116ykq.1 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:11:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=FCrXGDiQn/vpLj2nVmmVX+l23ZoPDe065skcNGDdHyk=; b=GcwXFgcoxFJO0nGr7pnWeKQ9ODitG4xFQ7LX1tDIrLR/Gk0bw24yxUfdIFO7TdWigb tAcSj8Qe0n7+sDNiiUDOFK1X1el6Vvrl5otu/aQhyzCz4seAJ2sAgFlYWGGLLgfR2rGk uPV6+6oiLXR26uyzb7/vpgC+Lz/knasyTUi0Ecl9LF+1PRVtyG7cGd9cofZUepuDS0ik weCNXckY7d0Hi5jQ0KeUrTcFIlPtO6X3JnCzqIC+VZe0ZWTYAMDNUjlCKas2wtpHMHHf 0vH2LO42+6cD+u00SrDAynqCW7LCFp1TcRwK0vStn/K2nCkIakGzSJnroSK/cKnTInMs qg1g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=FCrXGDiQn/vpLj2nVmmVX+l23ZoPDe065skcNGDdHyk=; b=RCjnB79fU/5kt1p5ExOa3/vAfn2WHzEirQF9bjXkVIXFLNTH6QyY0YJwpF3RA0iWFX tJIqkd97q86Mv2caAoKbsfWdlWLUJl27qo/TnBt67qD/JT3cODTaNLw3yWHjDWoYHKft DrqYKf5/xjpYUE9mvF1g5frux3S1u8ngpXVWVm3642Y1WNnX6tgVF3Q8GuNVzDziWyqU 3i3vTSjqM/zrj4xBHji6q+uk/K6She/EV0V6+jwNEMD7ixcdpv6apxoZtWVWRz/JvZCB gpbO+sStwhHvofH2eVtkzoR1tSa9dMX2gtZ1yePRhWTgti+Ba2oWK8diImPpyu6XZnef nnLA== X-Received: by 10.140.33.203 with SMTP id j69mr614778qgj.2.1408407078412; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:11:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.31.164 with SMTP id f33ls2515263qgf.34.gmail; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:11:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.33.203 with SMTP id j69mr614777qgj.2.1408407078052; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <68c85c6b-b8bb-4401-b7f6-f48cba9a3c6d@googlegroups.com> Subject: [lojban] End vowel for slot? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1968_258241397.1408407077591" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_1968_258241397.1408407077591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hope it's okay to discuss conlang variations of Lojban on this list. As an armchair conlanger, I can't help but wonder about a few "what-ifs" as I read the CLL. One that keeps coming back to me is the idea that the last vowel of a brivla (is that the right word?) could specify the slot intended, instead of having to to use `se`, `te`, `ve` or `xe`. klama => klama se klama => klame te klama => klami ve klama => klamo xe klama => klamu It just seems a very natural extension of the predicate nature of Lojban's words. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_1968_258241397.1408407077591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hope it's okay to discuss conlang variations of Lojban on this list. As an = armchair conlanger, I can't help but wonder about a few "what-ifs" as I rea= d the CLL. One that keeps coming back to me is the idea that the last vowel= of a brivla (is that the right word?) could specify the slot intended, ins= tead of having to to use `se`, `te`, `ve` or `xe`. 

    klama     = =3D>  klama
=     se klama  =3D>  klame
    te klama  =3D>  klami
<= font face=3D"courier new, monospace">    ve klama  =3D>  klamo
   = ; xe kla= ma  =3D>  klamu

It just= seems a very natural extension of the predicate nature of Lojban's words.<= /font>

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