Received: from mail-yh0-f58.google.com ([209.85.213.58]:34075) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XJYtw-00024b-Jg for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:11:57 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f58.google.com with SMTP id i57sf1479798yha.13 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:11:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=A1BQFbWDyddWjkLwS+ahHRRxwxUPLXl6uDlTJXziSiE=; b=L1nxtUke1vu3Cdbvrdy3x4CciCKtp7zX1mQCA5wH/Hw1fMNRb8zjn2tTieMF6KCCfu vdG74f23OlgoV8zxNq7tgoSp9WOSlKfkglWqyi8UoF50TzEtL9yj3+n3fGvsqnw8NR25 h+9onVc7ifv4FtPWPwHthbVlH71BvfKG6xQepaVxmSZKBlaiSBVRRdkLYzD52Ktt0N5y yJPYsG41+5JzsswIgn+2yv+eiorAbVxidvbvS3DlA5V5gTii2CmNO5fAeHURl3EXqVHT VBwn5240ddeyObXI4fZwVDIoIWelRirvzxsCB1aTdnrIVQsWQCzgn7WnxQgBWRZh7zC8 B00Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=A1BQFbWDyddWjkLwS+ahHRRxwxUPLXl6uDlTJXziSiE=; b=NyTqFBVxpQNhianVNPJIz8/rmUvRSKyBOD7Ht96GJLGS98e6EtvadzVL4B8oyANG98 R0/7RF2hOEZQETXQQ4vYeQeaILJLosKUu8GI7m9hokLIz0fE8uohW30Y5ATggroJzlc9 crZ84uKXU107mDbkx9BXUIeJIxG8/nn5lqv3HQCZGcJs2mY5PpwfZSy/YmrLp/KbpMBA f/VPRXtWzX6cZLnjVF+YFwwCwe2vV7rmVxX8KHgs/qbKtCKCHSr4MSV6HGMqNGUuQlrz KmTlGQH1LUd+cKGDzP01GS0fFxhQebmSPZeFXelE9hiBbDd/iFEmVcnF4m/uaswlqiRN nvWA== X-Received: by 10.140.101.165 with SMTP id u34mr110qge.15.1408414309716; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:11:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.87.214 with SMTP id r80ls2649463qgd.44.gmail; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:11:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.19.97 with SMTP id 88mr658025qgg.3.1408414309399; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <0282a58c-003b-4eec-a774-c466dc3df9cc@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <68c85c6b-b8bb-4401-b7f6-f48cba9a3c6d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] End vowel for slot? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_955_548315112.1408414309049" X-Spam-Note: SpamAssassin invocation failed ------=_Part_955_548315112.1408414309049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Monday, August 18, 2014 8:27:20 PM UTC-4, xorxes wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:11 PM, TR NS > > wrote: > >> Hope it's okay to discuss conlang variations of Lojban on this list. As >> an armchair conlanger, I can't help but wonder about a few "what-ifs" as I >> read the CLL. One that keeps coming back to me is the idea that the last >> vowel of a brivla (is that the right word?) could specify the slot >> intended, instead of having to to use `se`, `te`, `ve` or `xe`. >> >> klama => klama >> se klama => klame >> te klama => klami >> ve klama => klamo >> xe klama => klamu >> >> It just seems a very natural extension of the predicate nature of >> Lojban's words. >> > > That would work for gismu, but not for brivla in general, unless you also > drastically reduce the number of available rafsi. > Yea, it would effect the rafsi. Not sure how that would work. Don't think it has to be "drastic" though, but it would significant. > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_955_548315112.1408414309049 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Monday, August 18, 2014 8:27:20 PM UTC-4, xorxe= s wrote:
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On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 9:11 PM, TR NS <tran...@gmail.com= > wrote:
Hope it's okay to discuss conlang variations= of Lojban on this list. As an armchair conlanger, I can't help but wonder = about a few "what-ifs" as I read the CLL. One that keeps coming back to me = is the idea that the last vowel of a brivla (is that the right word?) could= specify the slot intended, instead of having to to use `se`, `te`, `ve` or= `xe`. 

    klama &n= bsp;   =3D>  klama
    se klama  =3D>  klame
    te klama  =3D>  klami
    ve klama  =3D>  = klamo
   &nb= sp;xe klama &nbs= p;=3D>  = klamu

<= div>It just seems a very natural extension= of the predicate nature of Lojban's words.

That would work for gismu, but not for brivla in genera= l, unless you also drastically reduce the number of available rafsi.
<= /div>

Yea, it would effect the = rafsi. Not sure how that would work. Don't think it has to be "drastic" tho= ugh, but it would significant.


&nbs= p;
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mu'o mi'e xorxes

<= /div>

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