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[68.230.241.218]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w2si3512232qcl.3.2014.08.19.09.07.37 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=68.230.241.218; Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140819160737.KIFE2658.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:07:37 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id gg7d1o0031LDWBL01g7dQe; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:07:37 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020203.53F37649.0116,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dqcF/Sc4 c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=OCvT583evUAA:10 a=LZqkEVnAdAkA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=H5QMYJ5br4Bk2b1uqbIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <53F3764C.3020301@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 12:07:40 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Revitalizing LLG: Suggestions for the 2014 annual meeting References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 8/18/2014 7:00 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > IMO the main drawback is not any committees but the lack of CMS. CMS ki'a? > The tiki had a page "ongoing projects". However, it wasn't said how you > contribute. If you mean updating the status of said projects, by editing the page. If you mean contributing to the project work, that is up to whoever is responsible for the project. All that LLG does is provide recognition to said projects. >There was no algorithm of how you can help with those projects. There isn't one. It is entirely up to whoever is organizing the project. > 2. There is no platforum for translations to Lojban. In general, if something isn't found on the lojban web pages, it is up to the community to create it. If no one does so, it doesn't get done. If a software tool is needed, you need to provide it or (if it already exists) ask Robin if it can be made available. > 3. Another succesfull project is Masato Hagiwara's camxes.js > > That it was placed on github allowed us to start developing it further. > Github is another nice platform for completing projects. And yet that bears the same problem you describe above. Many people (including myself) have no idea what github is or how to use it or which if any projects may be found on it. > 4. Many people don't even know that they can add words to jbovlaste. > Yes, it's not a joke. They don't know cuz nobody tells them! I know they can be added, but I never learned how. But jbovlaste is the first listed of official projects and the link takes you to a page that identifies a "How you can help" which talks about adding words. > 5. Few know about the IRC channel #lojban which is the main place of > activity. It's on the main menu shown on the Lojban home page. I don't know why people don't know of it given that prominent location. > I'm trying to address issues 4 and 5 in another wiki. What good will that do. The information is there. The main problem is that no one looks at it. Maybe they don't know how to find things, but it seems that this call for a revision of the home page index. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.