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[68.230.241.215]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w2si3558896qcl.3.2014.08.19.10.24.16 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=68.230.241.215; Received: from eastrmimpo306 ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140819172416.WMYG31158.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo306> for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:24:16 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo306 with cox id ghQG1o00D1LDWBL01hQGTg; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:24:16 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020206.53F38840.0114,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Fc7pMuC6 c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=OCvT583evUAA:10 a=LZqkEVnAdAkA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=0UcWxBq9CHXyK5dVf7kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <53F38844.5060703@lojban.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:24:20 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Revitalizing LLG: Suggestions for the 2014 annual meeting References: <53F3764C.3020301@lojban.org> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 8/19/2014 12:15 PM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > content management system. E.g. many people say that tiki isnt fine. So > other solutions have to be considered I'll stay out of that issue, since I don't know the alternatives, nor their pros and cons. > 2. There is no platforum for translations to Lojban. > > > In general, if something isn't found on the lojban web pages, it is > up to the community to create it. If no one does so, it doesn't get > done. If a software tool is needed, you need to provide it or (if > it already exists) ask Robin if it can be made available. > > > As I said I know what tools are fine for me. So personally I have no > problems with that. But apparently others need something more. So someone needs to create more/better links and explanations. Robin doesn't have time, so it is up to the rest of the community. > 4. Many people don't even know that they can add words to jbovlaste. > Yes, it's not a joke. They don't know cuz nobody tells them! > > > I know they can be added, but I never learned how. But jbovlaste is > the first listed of official projects and the link takes you to a > page that identifies a "How you can help" which talks about adding > words. > > > Since people still have no idea it only means that this link is not > enough. People appear to be dumber than previously thought. Always blame > the teacher, not students. There is no teacher. Only the user community So someone needs to write a better explanation. > 5. Few know about the IRC channel #lojban which is the main place of > activity. > > > It's on the main menu shown on the Lojban home page. I don't know > why people don't know of it given that prominent location. > > > This question has been recently asked in the Facebook group. Then I would suggest that the Facebook group replicate all the links on the home page menu. > In general I'm surprised that you replied to my post, not to the main > post of this thread. I will be replying to it. Yours was easier to reply to quickly, and I had (yet another) medical appointment before I could consider the other post. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.