Received: from mail-pa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.220.64]:37517) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XJneJ-0002zz-M9 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:48 -0700 Received: by mail-pa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id kx10sf1666501pab.19 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=freRg1783f9lGRGkhtBU481xKmHSmtLzBvHwoh0BATg=; b=m0V6usV96QffI/Xt7nQGN8XmZtp8fwpjUC5VV/jeSZVjOAusg7D1jFjYg4kSGaSiyj cdFwQ8ABqPNQQ/rXZQjtihBpDszW0WDFDgtG2zGFT8YTPxT7DEqJFPODQg5umHxNQeiu 1DhT0nYW0/7nd5hq4TgPkjq5a4IE5hGyo4gEgICBI6dUtbo7JHl5tojluiLOh043y1gO /GEmgWWur8bOUsK9Tg1KBI0nPUf6P6QIoXq30QRuMeJm6yz9ZYUvlV3k9tnk0pontonn inPk7ywOPls4/yj4PQz26kIdlrfQnCXprHRpjuugpfaRW5qF/si+sCovwgKHAJBH5oUS enxA== X-Received: by 10.140.20.151 with SMTP id 23mr47905qgj.13.1408471000297; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.38.176 with SMTP id t45ls2903706qgt.60.gmail; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.174.178 with SMTP id bt18mr6247741vdc.1.1408470999962; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vc0-x22f.google.com (mail-vc0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q8si58570vdg.0.2014.08.19.10.56.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f; Received: by mail-vc0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id ik5so7694736vcb.6 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.160.10 with SMTP id xg10mr3165548vdb.1.1408470999890; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.220.148.144 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:56:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <68c85c6b-b8bb-4401-b7f6-f48cba9a3c6d@googlegroups.com> From: ".arpis." Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:56:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] End vowel for slot? To: Lojban X-Original-Sender: rpglover64@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of rpglover64@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=rpglover64@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013cb7b6a000170500ff3520 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --089e013cb7b6a000170500ff3520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Seems like it would be easy to mishear in a noisy environment. On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > Loglan worked this way: > logli = x1 is a Loglan speaker/Loglander. > loglo = x1 is an element/feature/expression of the Loglandic culture. > logle = x1 is an Loglandic place/territory, a region inhabited by > Loglanders. > logla = x1 is an element/feature/expression of Loglan. > > > > 2014-08-19 4:11 GMT+04:00 TR NS : > > Hope it's okay to discuss conlang variations of Lojban on this list. As an >> armchair conlanger, I can't help but wonder about a few "what-ifs" as I >> read the CLL. One that keeps coming back to me is the idea that the last >> vowel of a brivla (is that the right word?) could specify the slot >> intended, instead of having to to use `se`, `te`, `ve` or `xe`. >> >> klama => klama >> se klama => klame >> te klama => klami >> ve klama => klamo >> xe klama => klamu >> >> It just seems a very natural extension of the predicate nature of >> Lojban's words. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- mu'o mi'e .arpis. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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Seems like it would be easy to mishear in a noisy environm= ent.


On Tu= e, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:50 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Loglan worked this way:logli =3D x1 is a Loglan speaker/Loglander.
loglo =3D x1 is an e= lement/feature/expression of the Loglandic culture.
logle =3D x1 is an Loglandic place/territory, a region inhabited by Lo= glanders.
logla =3D x1 is an element/feature/expression of Loglan.



2014-08-19 4:11 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com><= /span>:

Hope it's okay to discuss conlang variat= ions of Lojban on this list. As an armchair conlanger, I can't help but= wonder about a few "what-ifs" as I read the CLL. One that keeps = coming back to me is the idea that the last vowel of a brivla (is that the = right word?) could specify the slot intended, instead of having to to use `= se`, `te`, `ve` or `xe`.=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 klama = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =3D> =C2=A0klama
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 se klama =C2=A0=3D> =C2=A0klame
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0te klama =C2=A0=3D>= ; =C2=A0= klami
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0ve klama =C2=A0=3D>= ; =C2=A0= klamo
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0xe klama =C2=A0=3D> =C2=A0klamu

It just seems a very natural e= xtension of the predicate nature of Lojban's words.
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