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User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Revitalizing LLG: Suggestions for the 2014 annual meeting References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 8/19/2014 5:42 PM, matthew@igregoire.com wrote: > I'm fairly new to the Lojban community, and one of the main things I > struggle with is how complicated and diasporic the community is. The LLG > and BPFK and what each does is confusing enough, let alone digging up a > list of all the updates to Lojban since the CLL. The ONLY change that is officially approved since CLL is "xorlo", but "xorlo" is more or less optional from the standpoint of a learner, since it reportedly doesn't invalidate any CLL usage. (But many learners apparently find it easier to understand than the CLL version of the same words). It seems as if nothing > is unified, and to truly understand Lojban I would have to read through > decades of mailing list archives. Nobody else has, so you don't need to. Use what you do understand and try things you think you might understand, learning from any errors that are pointed out to you. I think this is definitely something > worth solving, and a new CLL and full dictionary would be immensely helpful. We'd all love for those to exist, but it takes time to write and edit and proofread and index, etc, when everyone is a volunteer and the most knowledgeable seem to be most short of time. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.