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To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1135478059cf970501081469 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1135478059cf970501081469 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The vowel groupings are in L4 with notations from 1975. They seem to be part of the original language. *logla*, *log *** L-Prim L4 '75 7.4 (1n) B is an element/feature/expression of *Loglan*. [B-] (a) *Loglan*, pert. to the loglan language. *lo =E2=80=94* (n) *Loglan*, the mass of such elements. Used in: damlogla; logcia; logdia; logduo; logmao; logpli; logpozfa; logtaa; norlogla; *logle*, ** D-Prim JRK '83 3.6 (1a) B is an *Loglandic* place/territory, a region inhabited by Loglanders. [B-] *logli*, ** D-Prim L4 '75 1.0 (1n) B is an*Loglan speaker*/*Loglander*. [B-] (a) *Loglan*. *lo =E2=80=94* (n) (the) *Loglanders*, the mass of such persons. Used in: cnulogli; *loglo*, *<* D-Prim L4 '75 1.0 (1n) B is an element/feature/expression of the *Loglandic* culture. [B-] (a) *Loglan*, pert. to the Loglan culture. *lo =E2=80=94* (n) *Loglan*, the mass of such elements. stevo On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:40 PM, 'John E Clifford' via lojban < lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > Well. this features must be relatively new. i.e., since JCB, It i not in > the Loglan 1 of th 1980s. > > > On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 3:00 PM, TR NS wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:50:36 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote: > > Loglan worked this way: > logli =3D x1 is a Loglan speaker/Loglander. > loglo =3D x1 is an element/feature/expression of the Loglandic culture. > logle =3D x1 is an Loglandic place/territory, a region inhabited by > Loglanders. > logla =3D x1 is an element/feature/expression of Loglan. > > > I did not know. I have the Loglan 1 book, but I haven't read much of it > yet compared to the LLC. I'll have to look for that. > > Thanks. > > .trans. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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The vowel groupings are in L4 with notations from = 1975. They seem to be part of the original language.=C2=A0

logla,=C2=A0

log=C2=A0= <Loglan, the language>=C2= =A0=C2=A0L-Prim L4 '75 7.4
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0(1n) B is an element/feature/expression of=C2=A0Loglan. [B-] =C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0(a)=C2=A0Loglan, pert. to th= e loglan language.=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0lo =E2=80=94=C2=A0(n)= =C2=A0Loglan, the mass of such ele= ments.=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Used in: damlogla; =C2=A0logcia; =C2=A0logdia; =C2=A0logd= uo; =C2=A0logmao; =C2=A0logpli; =C2=A0logpozfa; =C2=A0logtaa; =C2=A0norlogl= a; =C2=A0

logle,=C2=A0

<Loglan, the language>=C2=A0=C2=A0D-Prim JRK &= #39;83 3.6
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0(1a) B is an=C2=A0Loglandic=C2=A0place/territory, a region inhabited by Logla= nders. =C2=A0[B-] =C2=A0

logli,=C2=A0
<Loglan, the = language>=C2=A0=C2=A0D-Prim L4 '75 1.0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0(1n) B is anLoglan sp= eaker/Loglander. =C2=A0[B-] = =C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0(a)=C2=A0Loglan. =C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0lo =E2=80=94=C2=A0(n) (= the)=C2=A0Loglanders, the mass of = such persons. =C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Used in: cnulogli; =C2=A0

loglo,=C2=A0
<<Loglan, the language>=C2=A0= =C2=A0D-Prim L4 '75 1.0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0(1n) B is an element/feature/expression of the=C2=A0Loglandic=C2=A0culture. =C2=A0[B-] =C2= =A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0(a)=C2=A0Loglan, pert. to the Loglan culture. =C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0l= o =E2=80=94=C2=A0(n)=C2=A0Loglan, the mass of such elements. =C2=A0

stevo


On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:40 PM, 'John E Clifford'= via lojban <lojban@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Well. this features must be relatively new. i.e., since JCB, =C2=A0It= i not in the Loglan 1 of th 1980s.


On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 3:00 PM, TR NS <transfire@gma= il.com> wrote:




On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 = 1:50:36 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:
Loglan worked this way:
logli =3D x1 is a Loglan speak= er/Loglander.
loglo =3D x1 is an element/feature/expression of th= e Loglandic culture.
logle =3D x1 is an Loglandic place/territory= , a region inhabited by Loglanders.
logla =3D x1 is an element/feature/expression of Loglan.


I did not know. I have the Loglan 1 book, but I haven't rea= d much of it yet compared to the LLC. I'll have to look for that.

Thanks.=C2=A0

.trans.
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