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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:53:17 -0700
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Like most conlangs, Lojban gave virtually no consideration to the noisy roo=
m problem -- and has resisted any attempt to deal with the issue since (but=
 then, so has English =A0"talk louder, repeat yourself, ...")


On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 1:00 PM, ianek <janek37@gmail.com> wrote:
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If Lojban was intended to be usable in a noisy environment, it wouldn't inc=
lude over hundred one-syllable words.

mu'o mi'e ianek


On Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:33:39 AM UTC+2, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:58:57 TR NS wrote:=20
>> On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:56:40 PM UTC-4, .arpis. wrote:=20
>> > Seems like it would be easy to mishear in a noisy environment.=20
>>=20
>> True, but I've notice that in few other places too. I think context is=
=20
>> usually enough to counter that.=20
>
>I know two words that differ in a vowel, not the final vowel, and that are=
 easy=20
>to confuse: In Alice, the Queen is le noltruni'u, and the Duchess is le=20
>noltroni'u.=20
>
>Pierre=20
>--=20
>When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.=20
>J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada.=20
>
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:He=
lveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:12pt"><div><span>Like most conlangs, Lojban gave virtually no consi=
deration to the noisy room problem -- and has resisted any attempt to deal =
with the issue since (but then, so has English &nbsp;"talk louder, repeat y=
ourself, ...")</span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div=
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y: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans=
-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helve=
tica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;=
"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> On Wednesday, August =
20, 2014 1:00 PM, ianek &lt;janek37@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>=
  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv3147599687"><div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">If
 Lojban was intended to be usable in a noisy environment, it wouldn't inclu=
de over hundred one-syllable words.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">mu=
'o mi'e ianek<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv3147599687yqt7045778896" i=
d=3D"yiv3147599687yqtfd83459"><br clear=3D"none">On Wednesday, August 20, 2=
014 5:33:39 AM UTC+2, Pierre Abbat wrote:<blockquote class=3D"yiv3147599687=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid=
;padding-left:1ex;">On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 12:58:57 TR NS wrote:
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; On Tuesday, August 19, 2014 1:56:40 PM UTC-4, .arpi=
s. wrote:
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; &gt; Seems like it would be easy to mishear in a no=
isy environment.
<br clear=3D"none">&gt;=20
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; True, but I've notice that in few other places too.=
 I think context is
<br clear=3D"none">&gt; usually enough to counter that.
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">I know two words that differ in a vowel, not the final v=
owel, and that are easy=20
<br clear=3D"none">to confuse: In Alice, the Queen is le noltruni'u, and th=
e Duchess is le=20
<br clear=3D"none">noltroni'u.
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">Pierre
<br clear=3D"none">--=20
<br clear=3D"none">When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
<br clear=3D"none">J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada.
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"yiv3147599687yqt7=
045778896" id=3D"yiv3147599687yqtfd24102">


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