Received: from mail-we0-f188.google.com ([74.125.82.188]:33004) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XKTJ8-0006gk-Ks for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:43 -0700 Received: by mail-we0-f188.google.com with SMTP id t60sf953126wes.15 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=m1fJeErMKdpi3xQ3en9Cja/Ge+yc6vy29vJpSKB0Ue8=; b=TamxPyUy8tGsvWmHi4OgtHdu9oaWJ2gNxgK5H9WayhujUZinUpvb8uQT7G7ZlKPooL khtCYaA+CQBMA1YxmwVCJ2WW66+wNkkix6isXxHfXjVHI5OSo35M2/EsXjj0mbhq6TOU gZuXh0pNzVQJ8g84j+ZhAvgvTdk5pR8DcCZ2jsrCtHE1cpSEswsq4dc2npf9TX6oed2P O9M0YvSRI24SuimTWSV2OW8xotrUo4Mfx3ip1urvRbE58/8rAHfzmu47Wc4B85ahaMb8 oTHPJaiDlaJ9vkg8//bUPBX2ZGzQOfsJr1TP3nxSmApKmALHcqPLFCCjPE1GgKwkpnqW t9mQ== X-Received: by 10.152.7.41 with SMTP id g9mr247laa.41.1408631135709; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.27.8 with SMTP id p8ls156057lag.5.gmail; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.112.95.228 with SMTP id dn4mr5012704lbb.2.1408631134911; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wg0-x22f.google.com (mail-wg0-x22f.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m15si386902wiw.0.2014.08.21.07.25.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f; Received: by mail-wg0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id b13so9082735wgh.6 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.203.8 with SMTP id km8mr68197277wjc.51.1408631134775; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.142.148 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <07008b35-da3c-4e9e-878e-c7e47d360afc@googlegroups.com> <4087384.lFph0mqEze@caracal> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 18:25:34 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Oral conversation From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bae47e66873a70501247ed4 X-Spam-Note: SpamAssassin invocation failed --047d7bae47e66873a70501247ed4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-08-21 18:03 GMT+04:00 TR NS : > > > On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:56:17 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Thursday, August 21, 2014 05:42:26 TR NS wrote: >> > Does any one have *oral* conversations in Lojban? More than a few >> sentence? >> >> There are several Lojbanists in the Bay Area, and there's a Skype group. >> I >> think Arc Balandin is in charge of the Skype group. How much oral Lojban >> actually happens, I don't know. I'm willing to talk Lojban on Skype, but >> today >> I'm going back home. >> > > Actually, I was just wondering b/c I was reading about attitudinals and > having a hard time imagining there is enough phonological "space" to be > very clear when speaking, e.g. mishearing .u'o as u'u takes one from > courage to repentance. That's a big difference in meaning for such a small > phonological shift. I wonder about this with much of the language, but it > stands out here in particular. > You can put the stress on {o} in {.u'o} but you must put a pause after {.u'o} so it will all be {.u'O.} This makes recognition easier. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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2014-08-21 18:03 GMT+04:00 TR NS <transfire@gmail.com>:


On = Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:56:17 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Thursday, August 21, 2014 05:42:26 TR NS wrote:
> Does any one have *oral* conversations in Lojban? =C2=A0More than = a few sentence?

There are several Lojbanists in the Bay Area, and there's a Skype g= roup. I=20
think Arc Balandin is in charge of the Skype group. How much oral Lojba= n=20
actually happens, I don't know. I'm willing to talk Lojban on S= kype, but today=20
I'm going back home.

Actually, I was just wondering b= /c I was reading about attitudinals and having a hard time imagining there = is enough phonological "space" to be very clear when speaking, e.= g. mishearing .u'o as u'u takes one from courage to repentance. Tha= t's a big difference in meaning for such a small phonological shift. I = wonder about this with much of the language, but it stands out here in part= icular.

You can put the stress on {o} in {.u= 'o} but you must put a pause after {.u'o} so it will all be {.u'= ;O.} This makes recognition easier.


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