Received: from mail-ig0-f192.google.com ([209.85.213.192]:37044) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XKV2y-0007Yv-8f for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:09 -0700 Received: by mail-ig0-f192.google.com with SMTP id h18sf1883282igc.19 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1yheBfIvQaXty02x3wAf5d/ctkMEJB4Y8xuOHxFw7Is=; b=UsQmEbscVDOY5F1hCirSSBAfMEsJVLMWnqSpGlSgfPq0xru07ng9fhYNzinCNSEbX4 VfqYTfGioK8fZisy8WzX1sLFBsOnfeyZcK+cOU7auyINHhYikBZSy+8ZL/W0efVVbtqb 76sVVUvD6MfyiYj7+bOvBGe4eRAss9+b6NTImOurQqVjEt4A4pGDi54gHJGWBNpIhRth NPfJOZrJqSBU403KLFbCXNlMmBqkOVESoQkXEdJSiqHXbHZJ92i+zlC2RdvbrHnN3myt maMBfBMqkpMK3B28FWXPGUe3/kymqfDVslXtiiey2j9MP1RVWTz7g/wvWhRIc1UwlicB O2IA== X-Received: by 10.51.18.100 with SMTP id gl4mr140004igd.6.1408637821591; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.132.34 with SMTP id or2ls1275216igb.33.gmail; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.97.38 with SMTP id dx6mr4459651pab.46.1408637820720; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qa0-x22c.google.com (mail-qa0-x22c.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w2si4916761qcl.3.2014.08.21.09.17.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c; Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f12so8531454qad.3 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.23.37 with SMTP id 34mr84518576qgo.2.1408637820563; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.159.211 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:16:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <07008b35-da3c-4e9e-878e-c7e47d360afc@googlegroups.com> <4087384.lFph0mqEze@caracal> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 12:16:30 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Oral conversation To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c12346e9778e0501260c43 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a11c12346e9778e0501260c43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Context plays a huge part in understanding, not just in Lojban. If something doesn't make sense or is unexpected when there's no indication that it should be, just question it. stevo On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:03 AM, TR NS wrote: > > > On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:56:17 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Thursday, August 21, 2014 05:42:26 TR NS wrote: >> > Does any one have *oral* conversations in Lojban? More than a few >> sentence? >> >> There are several Lojbanists in the Bay Area, and there's a Skype group. >> I >> think Arc Balandin is in charge of the Skype group. How much oral Lojban >> actually happens, I don't know. I'm willing to talk Lojban on Skype, but >> today >> I'm going back home. >> > > Actually, I was just wondering b/c I was reading about attitudinals and > having a hard time imagining there is enough phonological "space" to be > very clear when speaking, e.g. mishearing .u'o as u'u takes one from > courage to repentance. That's a big difference in meaning for such a small > phonological shift. 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Context plays a huge part in understanding, not just in Lojb= an. If something doesn't make sense or is unexpected when there's n= o indication that it should be, just question it.=C2=A0
stevo


On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:03 AM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thursday, August 21, 2014 8:56:= 17 AM UTC-4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On = Thursday, August 21, 2014 05:42:26 TR NS wrote:
> Does any one have *oral* conversations in Lojban? =C2=A0More than = a few sentence?

There are several Lojbanists in the Bay Area, and there's a Skype g= roup. I=20
think Arc Balandin is in charge of the Skype group. How much oral Lojba= n=20
actually happens, I don't know. I'm willing to talk Lojban on S= kype, but today=20
I'm going back home.

Actually, I was just wondering b= /c I was reading about attitudinals and having a hard time imagining there = is enough phonological "space" to be very clear when speaking, e.= g. mishearing .u'o as u'u takes one from courage to repentance. Tha= t's a big difference in meaning for such a small phonological shift. I = wonder about this with much of the language, but it stands out here in part= icular.


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