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[68.230.241.213]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id w2si5692317qcl.3.2014.08.22.11.48.00 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: none (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=68.230.241.213; Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140822184800.BPBL30009.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:48:00 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id huo01o0031LDWBL01uo0JU; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:48:00 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.53F79060.0076,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=dqcF/Sc4 c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=OCvT583evUAA:10 a=LZqkEVnAdAkA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=8MOGKVUeLKoO8TRpdnYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <53F79061.5000706@lojban.org> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:48:01 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Revitalizing LLG: Suggestions for the 2014 annual meeting References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: lojbab@lojban.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - On 8/22/2014 12:47 PM, selpa'i wrote: > In the 2003 annual meeting there was a movement to make Lojban the > language used during LLG meetings. It failed, but maybe something > similar could be considered again. Perhaps a certain percentage of the > discussions should be in Lojban, if 100% is not feasible yet. A "Lojban > Quota" so to speak. Opinions? > > mi'e la selpa'i mu'o A couple years ago, I started the meeting with a Lojban sentence, and was basically told that people no longer wanted to do this. The original idea was when we were holding meetings on IRC, and the plan was to have people on a back channel translating and explaining things in real time. the actual meeting would be in Lojban, but the process of getting things into Lojban would have been greatly assisted, for those with insufficient real time skill. That type of language learning, where a group of learners is attempting to communicate in-language, each assisted by a coach that would help them find the words and modes of expression they need, has been used to achieve rapid fluency in other languages, but it is very intense, and hence hard to imagine working over the several weeks of the current meetings. I'd love to see it tried sometime on IRC to have a large group discussion with coaching. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.