Received: from mail-pd0-f184.google.com ([209.85.192.184]:45109) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XLY3R-0000VL-12 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:41:57 -0700 Received: by mail-pd0-f184.google.com with SMTP id v10sf2847922pde.1 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=simpnm9cskXOp1B24LQGiCOXpPotkdPFswnkADffi2M=; b=ZkxV/+dkPf9FRw7wsrOCIE3wZGB5qU96v7JVBNopQEOLJNnBizrf9yUtVU8fnCwXkC ncNE8PH7BOR7PYULQeEodItSlF7mhHClX8ZeshjtpX8Too+K9yE/oQjxhVDeqQ3cpeiw AhD7kg+PxhLOvI5rAA9VUGSRFDWTDqNNoui9UkT9QvZERFFvmi9XxSwnYUJ8lB4Sm51z 4jXEySnID3EKbysyF8nY5xeY+F+FexxAQAd3gzt9mhGP9qG7dKWFVwgII53PZrMTTSZa tCk59soqc/GqV1yUMjjaNxcBssTbBnB6WhPXhJCVhC9Y3joNSuuYqMwl3zufzgsdNRBA 3ofA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=simpnm9cskXOp1B24LQGiCOXpPotkdPFswnkADffi2M=; b=LWXuQ+90csQtKWTo/6f7sz0nI4k2ILOVVWnNjijXYgr9XagLqQiNKuXRE0Cg7aeXnE nwvADzwHR4j4VHH60XhaW4CIu1mpvEW74PAqf+x46zt14ielGpt8tC0+0Rr2mmBk6YfA WHnkCk2VVyYysRwLYqdf/KV6JJYOoT25dfU6vkTNYdZ8ZhAytaRCyXFS897I0ZJ2vlZA 03C7E6N3OG8ywWbZtdRdjphgIHI4Ge49S2XQbC/N/jwbPJ7ueruIUFI6wqxWX4XKC5Op E2LE2J7GwELCYDziJBXAd6sosUCAhDzFzL4rtI7HctcI7hmjHL05WOuYIjp9WExizk2V wNkg== X-Received: by 10.140.95.7 with SMTP id h7mr323848qge.4.1408887710460; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.25.148 with SMTP id 20ls1738162qgt.86.gmail; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.33.203 with SMTP id j69mr312696qgj.2.1408887710232; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 06:41:49 -0700 (PDT) From: TR NS To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <26e79a95-2448-48cf-b269-f295f3073ddf@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <68c85c6b-b8bb-4401-b7f6-f48cba9a3c6d@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: End vowel for slot? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: transfire@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2314_1848674514.1408887709899" X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - ------=_Part_2314_1848674514.1408887709899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:40:19 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote: > > > http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=gism > "However, they are there from the gismu creation process to provide mnemonic assistance. How quickly would you learn banguwithout the angu of the English (pronounced languedj)? Would a Chinese speaker learn vanju as easily without the chinese "jiu" (pronounced [dziou]) being the entire second syllable?" I can't really take this explanation seriously. I personally think this one place Logan/Lojban failed. Creating words by statistically mixing the letters of words from other languages just ends up creating words that on the whole no one recognizes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. ------=_Part_2314_1848674514.1408887709899 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:40:19 AM UTC-4, la gleki wro= te:

"However, they are ther= e from the gismu creation process to provide mnemonic assistance. How quick= ly would you learn banguwithout the angu of the English (pronounced langued= j)? Would a Chinese speaker learn vanju as easily without the chinese "jiu"= (pronounced [dziou]) being the entire second syllable?"

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I can't really take this explanation seriously. I personally think thi= s one place Logan/Lojban failed. Creating words by statistically mixing the= letters of words from other languages just ends up creating words that on = the whole no one recognizes. 

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