Received: from mail-ie0-f183.google.com ([209.85.223.183]:36948) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1XLaXG-0001z2-Ba for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:55 -0700 Received: by mail-ie0-f183.google.com with SMTP id lx4sf1569356iec.10 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=X2gcIXMgnUJDorfQdJbSj2bJV13XkExH66qjjXKgTRk=; b=Z5q6AYD6lc2tTCKki8M/GuGo3aM/sCeKJjdI0SgixZUodP8mmPJPzey2ccFh0i2VJ/ WGXJvS3iFp6dtiKO8iqrG7vS5Vz3xg6yeksp73r2AeHF82eaWpljrUvDEQ6RV+CXtJGh R5VG94bVOZBgQafN2BprtuwP8BIvY7qlK9dBIpb3YEoCNNgBYUL58BJ91Zr8wMTKBFx8 +/MYfjkbQoHU4dT7x0qqr4kbimpVTTrkNr+HZYf1fbdL/uBllFJfP3f8r6LRU/ZM1URM Fh6Z9LbW6nHpq10ZMYeJLUyfZqhbuHwxnDIq3678BTmwzfMW26msvbaKiYZNjEO7/dQV vi3Q== X-Received: by 10.50.2.6 with SMTP id 6mr243032igq.10.1408897248650; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.82.33 with SMTP id f1ls845594igy.3.canary; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.66.122.101 with SMTP id lr5mr11076150pab.19.1408897248355; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qc0-x22d.google.com (mail-qc0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w2si6649614qcl.3.2014.08.24.09.20.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22d; Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id w7so12776385qcr.18 for ; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.19.201 with SMTP id 67mr25409908qgh.28.1408897248200; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.159.211 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Aug 2014 09:20:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <26e79a95-2448-48cf-b269-f295f3073ddf@googlegroups.com> References: <68c85c6b-b8bb-4401-b7f6-f48cba9a3c6d@googlegroups.com> <26e79a95-2448-48cf-b269-f295f3073ddf@googlegroups.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2014 12:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: End vowel for slot? To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134f3c60180f1050162749e X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_bar: - --001a1134f3c60180f1050162749e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I've said this for years. stevo On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, TR NS wrote: > On Sunday, August 24, 2014 12:40:19 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote: >> >> >> http://mw.lojban.org/index.php?title=gism >> > > "However, they are there from the gismu creation process to provide > mnemonic assistance. How quickly would you learn banguwithout the angu of > the English (pronounced languedj)? Would a Chinese speaker learn vanju as > easily without the chinese "jiu" (pronounced [dziou]) being the entire > second syllable?" > > I can't really take this explanation seriously. I personally think this > one place Logan/Lojban failed. Creating words by statistically mixing the > letters of words from other languages just ends up creating words that on > the whole no one recognizes. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --001a1134f3c60180f1050162749e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've said this for years.=C2=A0

stevo


On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, TR NS <transfire@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
On Sunday, August 24, 2014 = 12:40:19 AM UTC-4, la gleki wrote:

"However, they are= there from the gismu creation process to provide mnemonic assistance. How = quickly would you learn banguwithout the angu of the English (pronounced la= nguedj)? Would a Chinese speaker learn vanju as easily without the chinese = "jiu" (pronounced [dziou]) being the entire second syllable?"= ;

I can't really take this explanation seriously. I p= ersonally think this one place Logan/Lojban failed. Creating words by stati= stically mixing the letters of words from other languages just ends up crea= ting words that on the whole no one recognizes.=C2=A0

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